Moderators Tater Posted October 9 Moderators Share Posted October 9 3 minutes ago, StretchCT said: Cool thing about the tropical threads are that no one is here complaining they aren't getting the storm. I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickrd Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Sentinel said: You can tell her that this is coming from someone who has a career as an Emergency/Risk Manager. Her life is in danger if she stays. Period. We’ve tried. She is now going a mile inland to a friend's. She is 70 year old nut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 9 Author Moderators Share Posted October 9 2 minutes ago, Burr said: I wouldn’t call it the ‘edge’ but yes The edge of the M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 6 minutes ago, StretchCT said: Mission 17 vortex: pressure 913mb, closed circular eye 9nm wide. Flight wind in 144mph, flight wind out 159 mph. Eye temp in 26c, out 17c. Top flight wind 180mph. Reveal hidden contents Product: NOAA Vortex Message (URNT12 KWBC) Transmitted: 9th day of the month at 0:50Z Agency: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Aircraft: Lockheed WP-3D Orion (Reg. Num. N42RF) Storm Name: Milton Storm Number & Year: 14 in 2024 (flight in the North Atlantic basin) Mission Number: 17 Observation Number: 12 A. Time of Center Fix: 9th day of the month at 0:20:17Z B. Center Fix Coordinates: 23.08N 86.82W B. Center Fix Location: 335 statute miles (539 km) to the WSW (252°) from Key West, FL, USA. C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: Not Available D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 913mb (26.96 inHg) E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 85° at 3kts (From the E at 3mph) F. Eye Character: Closed G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 9 nautical miles H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: Not Available I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound (Undecoded): NA J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 345° at 125kts (From the NNW at 143.8mph) K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 5 nautical miles to the W (263°) of center fix at 0:18:59Z L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: Not Available M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound (Undecoded): NA N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 187° at 138kts (From the S at 158.8mph) O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 7 nautical miles to the E (89°) of center fix at 0:22:06Z P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 2,448m (8,031ft) Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 26°C (79°F) at a pressure alt. of 2,441m (8,009ft) R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 20°C (68°F) R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature S. Fix Level: Other - Not surface, 1500ft, 925mb, 850mb, 700mb, 500mb, 400mb, 300mb or 200mb T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.01 nautical miles T. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile Remarks Section: Maximum Flight Level Wind: 156kts (~ 179.5mph) which was observed 7 nautical miles to the SSE (164°) from the flight level center at 23:10:00Z I thought I spied a 910.9 in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Mac Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 minute ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickrd Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 minute ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 9 Author Moderators Share Posted October 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. Oh we know in New England how there can be a surge in a noreaster. Not usually more than a couple of feet though. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/FUPU7hUtqJDF3uF6/ Edited October 9 by StretchCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickrd Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rickrd said: We’ve tried. She is now going a mile inland to a friend's. She is 70 year old nut. Pretty sure me telling her to take a hang tag and write her name and date of birth on it and tie it to her big toe got her attention. Edited October 9 by Rickrd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. short one below https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1040708503577744 Edited October 9 by TLChip 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Sentinel Posted October 9 Admin Share Posted October 9 7 minutes ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. Live on the Cape 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longislander Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 9 minutes ago, GregRups said: A lot of people in fort myers, Bonita and southwest Florida are still recovering from Ian two years ago. Some places I drive by are still boarded up. Going to be a shame when Milton comes through. There is a big shift going on in FL to new condos built to code, and away from old condos and ranch homes. Mostly driven by insurance costs. Let face it, a lot of these houses you see on barrier islands on the Gulf should never have been built, the zoning is incompatible with the realities of mother nature there. Helene and Milton are going to accelerate that trend dramatically. I want a place in FL someday, and I think now I would be better off in a newly built condo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 This is not my uncle: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickrd Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 2 hours ago, tool483 said: ok, well this is insane stuff I tell you..wow!?? The vorticity's in that eye and the gravity waves, holy sheesh Mesmerizing. Looks like a bad date I had in 1985. Tequila 1. Rick 0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, longislander said: There is a big shift going on in FL to new condos built to code, and away from old condos and ranch homes. Mostly driven by insurance costs. Let face it, a lot of these houses you see on barrier islands on the Gulf should never have been built, the zoning is incompatible with the realities of mother nature there. Helene and Milton are going to accelerate that trend dramatically. I want a place in FL someday, and I think now I would be better off in a newly built condo. Some of the products out now are amazing. I was in a testing facility and they shot 2x4's out of a cannon at 120 mph, into a 12'x20' glass storefront. It held multiple shots, and passed a negative+positive alternating pressure test the whole time. Edited October 9 by TLChip 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Latest pass from Mission 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psu1313 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 minute ago, Burr said: This is not my uncle: If this is real, he needs to be given a live GoPro with a feed. I don’t want to see a man die, but I want to watch the chaos of a boat in this storm. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comeauxn712 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 16 minutes ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. I grew up in PA watching and rooting for snowstorms. Now that I live in Florida tropical storms are all I have! Although they aren't as guilt-free to root for, as they're slightly more deadly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Mac Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Just now, Psu1313 said: If this is real, he needs to be given a live GoPro with a feed. I don’t want to see a man die, but I want to watch the chaos of a boat in this storm. The stupid part is that many of these folks that are riding it out will be waking up 4 days from now in houses that are undamaged. However, they won't have power, will be out of food, out of water and all the nearby roads will be impassable or destroyed so they cannot get more provisions. These same people will be screaming at FEMA for not plucking them out of their predicament by helicopter. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortySixAnd32 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 23 minutes ago, Tater said: I gotta admit, yesterday I was trying to imagine how to get "storm surge" in a snowstorm. Snurge 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortySixAnd32 Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 9 Author Moderators Share Posted October 9 Weakening flag has been on for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC3-LAST CHANCE Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Great info in here all. The ‘cane threads imho are the best of the best . Tons of knowledge and insight, without the winter wanking, as Stretch said. Ok, he didn’t go “ winter wanking”, but he is much more polished than me, and i kinda like that term 😀. Looking at storms from afar with no skin the game other than friends and relatives takes some of the emotions out of it. Thank you all! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 minute ago, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said: Great info in here all. The ‘cane threads imho are the best of the best . Tons of knowledge and insight, without the winter wanking, as Stretch said. Ok, he didn’t go “ winter wanking”, but he is much more polished than me, and i kinda like that term 😀. Looking at storms from afar with no skin the game other than friends and relatives takes some of the emotions out of it. Thank you all! How much snow in philly? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tater Posted October 9 Moderators Share Posted October 9 Just now, TLChip said: How much snow in philly? The usual amount... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tater Posted October 9 Moderators Share Posted October 9 7 minutes ago, StretchCT said: Weakening flag has been on for a while. What's the criteria for the flags? How fast do they flip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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