Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 about 3-1/2 hours between these IR views. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clm Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: I think we are witnessing history here. Like seriously Just wish that the history part was not barreling towards people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clm Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, StretchCT said: Can you even have calm in a 4 mile wide eye? I can't see why not. Gloria's eye was 2 miles wide when it hit Long Island and it was as calm as could be as if no storm were around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Center is drifting south of east again from the latest fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC3-LAST CHANCE Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 4 minutes ago, Burr said: about 3-1/2 hours between these IR views. 👍 look at the size difference already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said: 👍 look at the size difference already. Classic ERC. I’m trying to get my uncle to get the heck outta St Pete. Even if his home is out of the flood danger, he could be without power for days. No reason to go through that, or put others’ lives in danger if things go sideways. Edited October 8 by Burr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) SW opening in the outer eyeball is almost gone. Possible we see the inner eye start to ‘wobble’ within the outer one as it starts clearing out overnight. Edited October 8 by Burr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clm Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 12 minutes ago, Burr said: Classic ERC. I’m trying to get my uncle to get the heck outta St Pete. Even if his home is out of the flood danger, he could be without power for days. No reason to go through that, or put others’ lives in danger if things go sideways. You might have to go physically get him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Just now, clm said: You might have to go physically get him He thinks he has till noon tomorrow to make up his mind, traffic allowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 Something just caused Raw T to spike to 8.0 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clm Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 minutes ago, Burr said: He thinks he has till noon tomorrow to make up his mind, traffic allowing. Its not so much the time it would take for the hurricane to get there, its also dealing with all the other people trying to leave. Best to leave earlier before everyone else otherwise you're just sitting there on the highway, like I do every day to and from work. Sit on a 55 mph highway and watch the bug on the ground go faster than you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 So much lightning in the center. Speaking of lightning, we had a thunderstorm this morning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Inbound on pass #4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 Opposite story of this afternoon. Once the eyewall cycle is done, assuming a wider eye, does it contract and strengthen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Just now, StretchCT said: Opposite story of this afternoon. Once the eyewall cycle is done, assuming a wider eye, does it contract and strengthen? 💯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 ADT has passed the official observations finally. And that's not Raw T which is at 8 or 170kts (195mph) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 11pm discussion highlights: pressure was 897 from both planes. 5th strongest hurricane in the Atlantic. ERC lead to decrease in intensity. Heading due east at 8kt,. New forecast is a bit faster than others. Shear is expected to start in 24 hrs and up to then it's still in a conducive environment governed by ERCS. ERCS will cause Milton to grow in size, increasing the danger. Spoiler Hurricane Milton Discussion Number 12 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024 1000 PM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024 Both Air Force and NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft have been investigating Milton. Earlier, the Hurricane Hunters found that the minimum central pressure in the eye had dropped to an estimated 897 mb. Based on this, Milton had the fifth lowest central pressure in the Atlantic basin hurricane record. Subsequent center penetrations by the aircraft indicated somewhat higher central pressures. Also, flight-level and dropsonde data from the aircraft suggested some decrease in intensity, and the advisory intensity is set to 145 kt. The decrease is likely the result of an eyewall replacement reported by the Hurricane Hunters, leading to a double wind maximum radially from the center. Notwithstanding, Milton still remains an extremely dangerous Category 5 hurricane. The initial motion is eastward, or 090/8 kt. Milton should continue to pass close to the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula tonight and early Tuesday. Then, the flow on the eastern side of a mid-tropospheric shortwave trough dropping into the northwestern Gulf of Mexico should cause Milton to move east-northeastward to northeastward at a faster forward speed later on Tuesday and Wednesday. This motion should take the system across the Florida peninsula on Thursday. Later in the forecast period, Milton is expected to move east-northeastward to eastward over the Atlantic waters off the southeast U.S. coast while gradually losing tropical characteristics. The official track forecast is close to, but a little faster than, the model consensus. This is also very similar to the previous NHC forecast. As noted earlier, the track is closer to the model predicted fields rather than the model trackers which appear to be too far south. So long as Milton remains in an environment of light shear and over very high oceanic heat content, its maximum intensity should be governed more by inner-core fluctuations. However the SHIPS diagnostics indicate a significant increase in vertical wind shear within 24 hours, likely associated with increasing southwesterly upper-level flow over the eastern Gulf of Mexico. Therefore a decrease in intensity is predicted before Milton reaches the western coast of the Florida Peninsula. Regardless of the peak intensity, the eyewall replacement cycle will likely lead to an expansion of the destructive inner core of the hurricane during the next day or two. The system is expected to be a large and powerful hurricane at landfall in Florida, with life-threatening hazards at the coastline and well inland. Residents in Florida should closely follow the orders from their local emergency management officials, as Milton has the potential to be one of the most destructive hurricanes on record for west-central Florida. Key Messages: 1. Damaging hurricane-force winds and a life-threatening storm surge with destructive waves are expected across portions of the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula through tonight. 2. Milton is expected to grow in size and remain an extremely dangerous hurricane when it approaches the west coast of Florida on Wednesday. A large area of destructive storm surge will occur along parts of the west coast of Florida on Wednesday. This is an extremely life-threatening situation and residents in those areas should follow advice given by local officials and evacuate immediately if told to do so. 3. Potentially devastating hurricane-force winds are expected along portions of the west coast of Florida where a Hurricane Warning is in effect. Milton is forecast to remain a hurricane as it crosses the Florida Peninsula and life-threatening hurricane-force winds, especially in gusts, are expected to spread inland across a portion of the entire Florida Peninsula. Preparations to protect life and property in the warning areas should be complete by Tuesday night since tropical storm conditions are expected to begin within this area early Wednesday. 4. Areas of heavy rainfall will continue to impact portions of Florida well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly related to the system expected Tuesday night through early Thursday. This rainfall brings the risk of considerable flash, urban, and areal flooding, along with moderate to major river flooding. Flooding will be exacerbated in areas where coastal and inland flooding combine to increase the overall threat. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 08/0300Z 21.8N 89.9W 145 KT 165 MPH 12H 08/1200Z 22.3N 88.6W 145 KT 165 MPH 24H 09/0000Z 23.5N 86.7W 140 KT 160 MPH 36H 09/1200Z 25.0N 84.9W 125 KT 145 MPH 48H 10/0000Z 27.1N 83.3W 110 KT 125 MPH 60H 10/1200Z 28.6N 80.9W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND 72H 11/0000Z 29.4N 77.6W 75 KT 85 MPH...OVER WATER 96H 12/0000Z 30.3N 69.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 120H 13/0000Z 31.0N 63.0W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP $$ Forecaster Pasch INIT 08/0300Z 21.8N 89.9W 145 KT 165 MPH 12H 08/1200Z 22.3N 88.6W 145 KT 165 MPH 24H 09/0000Z 23.5N 86.7W 140 KT 160 MPH 36H 09/1200Z 25.0N 84.9W 125 KT 145 MPH 48H 10/0000Z 27.1N 83.3W 110 KT 125 MPH 60H 10/1200Z 28.6N 80.9W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND 72H 11/0000Z 29.4N 77.6W 75 KT 85 MPH...OVER WATER 96H 12/0000Z 30.3N 69.5W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 120H 13/0000Z 31.0N 63.0W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 Hurricane force winds chance now up to 50% along the coast, 30-40% just inland. Clearly stays a hurricane through Florida - despite there being only a 10-20% chance of hurricane winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 NAM has an interesting path. Takes it up like the others, then slows it down and turns it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 NAM isn't the only one - CMC also has the right turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC3-LAST CHANCE Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 54 minutes ago, clm said: Just wish that the history part was not barreling towards people. It’s a choice for most. Gorgeous weather, and surrounded by the Gulf and Atlantic. It’s part of the deal, exacerbated by warming oceans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted October 8 Author Moderators Share Posted October 8 Last pass through with 919 extrapolated so probably 920. It will have wreaked by 23 mb since 8pm advisory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) And just like that *chef’s kiss*, the inner eyeball is gone Edited October 8 by Burr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Coming around for pass #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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