Poco Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Huzzah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpfalcon Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said: 👀 Over 12mb in an hour? Am I reading that correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 4 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said: 👀 942??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 1 minute ago, Jpfalcon said: Over 12mb in an hour? Am I reading that correctly? Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Just now, Burr said: 942??! We look at the value drop (or gain) more than the actual values. The ADT is a Sat derived product which may or may not be 1:1 with observed conditions we see from RECON etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Telltale feathering on the IR presentation (north and west) for a strengthening storm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Huge storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 minutes ago, Burr said: Telltale feathering on the IR presentation (north and west) for a strengthening storm. Yes, I speculated with others that it might be trying to stadium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poco Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 lol @ topic title “strengthening a lot” 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted September 26 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26 72 hr precip in the Blue Ridge . NAM 3k got it right. Already reports of 20+ inches. 24 hr precip 16"+ so far last 24hrs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Herc out - Tag teams to Orion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted September 26 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26 (edited) Last vortex message transmitted at 3:56 had it at 952mb. Ragged eye 35nm wide. Max flight level winds 132mph on the east side. 9C outside the eye, 17C inside the eye. Max surface winds 101mph. Spoiler Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC) Transmitted: 26th day of the month at 19:56Z Agency: United States Air Force Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF98-5308 Storm Name: Helene Storm Number & Year: 09 in 2024 (flight in the North Atlantic basin) Mission Number: 16 Observation Number: 33 A. Time of Center Fix: 26th day of the month at 19:32:20Z B. Center Fix Coordinates: 27.12N 84.93W B. Center Fix Location: 162 statute miles (261 km) to the WSW (249°) from Tampa, FL, USA. C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,712m (8,898ft) at 700mb D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 952mb (28.12 inHg) E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 340° at 8kts (From the NNW at 9mph) F. Eye Character: Ragged G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 35 nautical miles (40 statute miles) H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 88kts (101.3mph) I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 19 nautical miles (22 statute miles) to the ENE (68°) of center fix at 19:25:30Z J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 152° at 104kts (From the SSE at 119.7mph) K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 21 nautical miles (24 statute miles) to the ENE (65°) of center fix at 19:24:30Z L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 75kts (86.3mph) M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 16 nautical miles (18 statute miles) to the N (356°) of center fix at 19:37:30Z N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 79° at 78kts (From between the ENE and E at 89.8mph) O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 18 nautical miles (21 statute miles) to the N (356°) of center fix at 19:38:00Z P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 9°C (48°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,044m (9,987ft) Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,058m (10,033ft) R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 10°C (50°F) R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature S. Fix Levels (surface & flight level centers within 5nm of each other): Surface and 700mb T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles T. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile Remarks Section: Maximum Flight Level Wind: 115kts (~ 132.3mph) which was observed 27 nautical miles (31 statute miles) to the E (88°) from the flight level center at 18:05:30Z Mission 16 vort data - dropped 10mb over 5 hours. Sonde data also tells the story. the 123kts (142mph) winds were at 900mb. The 121kts were at 905mb. Edited September 26 by StretchCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said: 125mph at next update, nearly certain - or I'll eat my hat Interim update from TWC - now at 125mph Actually the NHC update at 5 Edited September 26 by Undertakerson2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted September 26 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26 5pm Discussion notes: Rapidly intensified, eyewall completely closed, circular and clearing out. Center contracted signficantly and TS force winds expanded. Helene is the upper bound of hurricanes in terms of storm size. It is speeding up, north at 20kts (which will save some at coast, hurt others inland). Has intensified 30kts since sunrise. Will be near or at Cat 4 at landfall. Spoiler Hurricane Helene Discussion Number 14 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092024 500 PM EDT Thu Sep 26 2024 Helene has rapidly intensified today while nearing landfall in the Florida Big Bend. Doppler radar and aircraft data indicate that the eyewall is now completely closed and the eye has become more circular and is clearing out. The aircraft data also indicated that the inner core has contracted significantly today while the tropical-storm-force winds have expanded. Based on all of the data, the initial intensity is set at 110 kt. The latest minimum pressure based on the aircraft data is around 951 mb. Tropical-storm-force winds are occurring across portions of west-central and southwestern Florida, and conditions are expected to deteriorate rapidly in the hurricane warning area during the next several hours. It should be emphasized that Helene is at the upper bound of hurricanes in terms of storm size and impacts are and will occur well away from the center. The large hurricane is now accelerating north-northeastward, with the latest initial motion estimated to be 025/20 kt. This general motion is expected to continue, taking the core of the major hurricane to the Florida Big Bend later this evening. After landfall, a turn to the north over Georgia is expected late tonight and early Friday, followed by a slowdown or a complete stall over the Tennessee Valley late Friday and Saturday when Helene merges with a mid- to upper-level low. The hurricane has intensified by 30 kt since sunrise and given the conducive environmental conditions and contracting inner core, it seems likely that Helene will be at or very near category 4 strength when it makes landfall in the Florida Big Bend this evening. The fast forward speed when Helene moves inland will result in a far inland penetration of strong winds over parts of the southeastern United States, including strong gusts over the higher terrain of the southern Appalachians. Accordingly, a higher-than-normal gust factor is indicated in the official forecast while Helene is inland. KEY MESSAGES: 1. A catastrophic and deadly storm surge will occur along portions of the Florida Big Bend coast, where inundation could reach as high as 20 feet above ground level, along with destructive waves. If you live in this area and were told to evacuate by local officials, your opportunity to do so is almost over. There is also a danger of life-threatening storm surge along the remainder of the west coast of the Florida Peninsula. 2. Potentially catastrophic hurricane-force winds are expected within the eyewall of Helene and will spread inland over portions of northern Florida and southern Georgia when Helene makes landfall in the Florida Big Bend region this evening. Persons in these areas should be prepared to take shelter in the interior portion of a well-built structure and remain sheltered until after hazardous conditions pass. You may need to remain sheltered after the storm due to downed trees and power lines, as well as flooding, in the area. 3. Damaging wind gusts will penetrate well inland over portions of Georgia and the Carolinas tonight, particularly over the higher terrain of the southern Appalachians. Residents in these areas should be prepared for the possibility of long-duration power outages. If you use a generator after the storm, be sure it is placed outside at least 20 feet away from doors, windows, and garages to avoid deadly carbon monoxide poisoning. 4. Catastrophic and life-threatening flash and urban flooding, including numerous significant landslides, is expected across portions of the southern Appalachians through Friday. Considerable to locally catastrophic flash and urban flooding is likely for northwestern and northern Florida and the Southeast through Friday. Widespread significant river flooding and isolated major river flooding are likely. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 26/2100Z 27.9N 84.6W 110 KT 125 MPH 12H 27/0600Z 31.5N 83.7W 90 KT 105 MPH...INLAND 24H 27/1800Z 35.8N 85.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 36H 28/0600Z 37.0N 86.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 48H 28/1800Z 37.1N 87.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 60H 29/0600Z 37.1N 87.3W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP 72H 29/1800Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Cangialosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Eye is looking more well defined. This is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators StretchCT Posted September 26 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26 (edited) Multiple areas of coastal FL flooded already. Edited September 26 by StretchCT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted September 26 Author Moderators Share Posted September 26 (edited) Max gusts since midnight - note the Bahamas even got hit by winds in the 40s Current max gusts Edited September 26 by StretchCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Admin MaineJay Posted September 26 Admin Share Posted September 26 It feels like a clutch engaging with the flywheel. Foot is coming off the pedal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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