SOMOSnow Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 hours ago, Grace said: Euro & CanSips both sucky updates At least it is just September. I'd almost prefer a bad update this far out. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOB11 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 7 hours ago, Grace said: Euro & CanSips both sucky updates I think I heard the CFS was better but still a bit warm. I honestly don’t think we are going to be able to escape a warmer than avg winter in the east. Too much working against us. Only thing that might be wrong is the LR models might be over estimating the extent of the Niña. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin MaineJay Posted September 6 Admin Share Posted September 6 Feels like we are kinda due a 100" snowfall season in my backyard. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mexico Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, MaineJay said: Feels like we are kinda due a 100" snowfall season in my backyard. Same! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOB11 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Just saw the new NMME model outlook for winter and it looks bad lol. Very warm for the east. Kind of has the look of a strong southern jet south east ridge from what I can see. Have to wonder if last winter might end up looking more wintery than this coming winter at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEPAsnow Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) a weak La Niña is associated with a more variable and amplified jet stream, not a strong southern jet. Edited September 8 by NEPAsnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Outbreak Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 On 9/8/2024 at 11:12 AM, SNOWBOB11 said: Just saw the new NMME model outlook for winter and it looks bad lol. Very warm for the east. Kind of has the look of a strong southern jet south east ridge from what I can see. Have to wonder if last winter might end up looking more wintery than this coming winter at this point. Are we cancelling winter already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 The completely unscientific thoughts I have at this point - as weak a tea as one might dare serve, has me looking for HLB set ups. To what extent these impact the entire East, is impossible to discern - yet from that I lean towards more access to cold (cold-ish) Canadian air to make it to the mid lats. If we can keep the pineapple express/ EA Jet extension, to a minimum, things might just work out for the cold and snow freaks* among you. (*said with affection) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1816 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 30 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said: The completely unscientific thoughts I have at this point - as weak a tea as one might dare serve, has me looking for HLB set ups. To what extent these impact the entire East, is impossible to discern - yet from that I lean towards more access to cold (cold-ish) Canadian air to make it to the mid lats. If we can keep the pineapple express/ EA Jet extension, to a minimum, things might just work out for the cold and snow freaks* among you. (*said with affection) My unscientific opinion is that if every slam dunk blockbuster winter fails for reasons, then the slam dunk dud winters should be extremely non duds for reasons as well. Let's see lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOB11 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 8 hours ago, Arctic Outbreak said: Are we cancelling winter already? Nah, but the LR models aren’t looking great at this point. It’s early so lots of time for things to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Hiramite Posted September 13 Moderators Share Posted September 13 With the current prognostication for a Weak Nina, some "old" snowfall data for such an event. Hopefully it stays weak. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/enso/what-about-snow-during-la-niña-winters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver56 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 10 hours ago, SNOWBOB11 said: Nah, but the LR models aren’t looking great at this point. It’s early so lots of time for things to change. I take that as a good sign. Every time they have looked good it seems winter has sucked. 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertakerson2.0 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Wasn't sure where to place this. Guess I could cross post over to Int'l? The PV is getting knocked around/displaced to some extent - with noteworthy results. I'm not sayin there's correlation - simply find this interesting and it is "Winter 2024" in the SH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 (edited) Not sure but if this blocking pattern is a sign of things to come maybe we can have a decent winter for once Edited September 16 by StormfanaticInd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wnwniner Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 9/6/2024 at 6:55 AM, MaineJay said: Feels like we are kinda due a 100" snowfall season in my backyard. Me too. Especially since we've never broken 60" 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wnwniner Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 9/13/2024 at 8:09 AM, Hiramite said: With the current prognostication for a Weak Nina, some "old" snowfall data for such an event. Hopefully it stays weak. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/enso/what-about-snow-during-la-niña-winters Shows central ohio at or near normal-that would actually be a great winter compared to the last few being well under normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOB11 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Did anyone see Henry Margusity winter forecast? I got a email with it and he’s going for cold and snowy for the lakes and parts of the Midwest, NE. Ohio is a 50/50 call. Overall I’d take it for my area. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOB11 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Here’s the latest ENSO update for the different regions SST The more I see about this winter the more is seems it’s going to be a light La Niña. SST haven’t dropped as much as maybe previously thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 13 hours ago, SNOWBOB11 said: Here’s the latest ENSO update for the different regions SST The more I see about this winter the more is seems it’s going to be a light La Niña. SST haven’t dropped as much as maybe previously thought. I mean whatever setup we had last year didn't work, so I guess I'll be equally excited going in to this year as any other where we had new conditions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) Just for reference, interestingly enough we've had more weak ninas than ANYTHING (by a slim margin over weak ninos), 2022-2023 sucked, but not as bad as 2023-2024 Edited September 17 by Ohiobuckeye45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 FWIW, Oct is looking like a very active pattern per BSR, as we move into 2nd week. This could be an indicator toward winter patterns. Nice to see active possibly. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 9/17/2024 at 7:08 PM, Grace said: FWIW, Oct is looking like a very active pattern per BSR, as we move into 2nd week. This could be an indicator toward winter patterns. Nice to see active possibly. This is very likely associated with the crazy warm West Pacific adding to baroclinicity along the East Coast of Asia. This area of warm water (-PDO) has been building for years due to persistent La Nina conditions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pghsnow Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/noaa-winter-outlook-december-january-february-2024-2025 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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