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2 hours ago, StLweatherjunkie said:

Canadian has been on a roll for MBY for several runs now.. Sorry OHV 

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 Your 100th post of the year strictly referencing how its not snowing in the OV. We got it, thank you lol

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6 hours ago, so_whats_happening said:

That se ridge may play an integral part in slowly snowing up the lower 48. Each passing storm should slowly move south with snow dropping nw. We may have a storm around the 23-25 to watch. The 19-20th storm is interesting but think we are just a little too warm for most. If we get a quicker coastal transfer and less robust inland storm its possible we see our first little bit of measurable snow east of the apps.

That ridge will set up a battle ground with pieces of energy riding along it. The question of course just how far north or south it is. But as impressive as the cold gets to building up in Canada one can assume later storms will have more cold at play. Gotta break at some point right lol

 

If that setup remains then the baroclinic zone setups up along snowpack & steers storm track. Each winter storm tracks a little SE of the one before. Everybody has to wait there turn, lol. 

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15 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

WebberWeather may have a Florida bias

He's originally from the South Carolina area now lives in the 4 corners area (IIRC).  He may indeed have biases, but until I see any real changes, it's meh east of the Rockies.  Plenty of system tracking but not enough winter for many.  If I was a few years younger, I'd really be fed up with lack of winter goodness.  I can see the positives of missing out on it more now than then.  LOL.  I'd still love to see a big snow though with cold.  Lots of wet snow/cement is not something I am a fan of.  Love powdery snows!

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1 hour ago, Iceresistance said:

WebberWeather may have a Florida bias

 

Eric has been on the warm train for a while.  I like Eric & I follow him on twitter and I post a lot of his thoughts here on this forum a lot but he has certainly been wrong several times. He's basing most of that on pure La Nina climatology. He was saying things about the warmth because he was counting on the MJO going into 4,5,6 but now that that is up in the air he's basing it on climatology alone.

What I mean by  LA Nina climatology if you take all LA Nina & make an analog composite, they normally have warm February's. So statistically the probability is higher...but we know statistics do not mean a lock. 

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The difference in Day 15, 2m Temps between GEFS & Canadian is really something. 

Canadian, Day 15

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GEFS, Day 15

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I don't have a clue which is correct...I really don't; however this 12z east asia forecast correlates to very end of month & first of FEB. The ensembles go out to JAN 30. So 🤷‍♂️...just a lot of mixed signals.

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20 minutes ago, Grace said:

The difference in Day 15, 2m Temps between GEFS & Canadian is really something. 

Canadian, Day 15

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GEFS, Day 15

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I don't have a clue which is correct...I really don't; however this 12z east asia forecast correlates to very end of month & first of FEB. The ensembles go out to JAN 30. So 🤷‍♂️...just a lot of mixed signals.

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Maybe split the difference & give us the Eastern Lakes cutter/Apps runner/Coastal Plains runner storm track variety that we've been lacking?

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1 hour ago, Grace said:

12z Canadian ensembles still not budging. Keeps ridge suppressed & its weird because Canadian products have a ridge bias for the most part.

500mb Days 10-15 average (5 days)

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2m Temps, Days 10-15 average Screenshot_20230115-123159_Chrome.thumb.jpg.88fddb434dfe2a8d2f61eb7f51c9bf6c.jpg

GEFS is correct, without a doubt. Always trust the warmer solution. 

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2 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

It's just not meant to be folks. Severe weather season should get off to an early start with this look however 😭image.thumb.png.f00c0a8b9f10d7d039d7ea82c55bbbab.png 

You post one ensemble model yet ignore several quality posts above, showing two other major model solutions? And then bittercast…

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5 minutes ago, Mulaman984 said:

You post one ensemble model yet ignore several quality posts above, showing two other major model solutions? And then bittercast…

This is the most likely solution. By the time we get into February we will be in the warm phases of the mjo most likely. At this point I am ready for spring anyway 😁

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