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Winter 2022-2023 | Discussion and Outlooks


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2 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Some improvements but still not all that good. I will say the models *could* be missing something given that we are moving through the cold phasesimage.thumb.png.64fc263a2453fa3275f72cb2c8eb6c9d.png

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I posted a few days back and provuded examples that being in a particular MJO phase does not create an immediate atmospheric response. Every single La Nina that went through a phase 8 has a lagged response. 

Even our DEC cold was more than likely a lagged response to MJO. 

 

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46 minutes ago, Grace said:

 

I posted a few days back and provuded examples that being in a particular MJO phase does not create an immediate atmospheric response. Every single La Nina that went through a phase 8 has a lagged response. 

Even our DEC cold was more than likely a lagged response to MJO. 

 

Interesting 

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EPS days 10-15, 500mb

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 That's going to be warm 2m temp wise but begins to transition 21st & ends up like this 23rd. Temps will begin to cool. 

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Canadian ensemble mean

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Hopefully we cool. CFS Weeklies get really cold 1st week through mid-FEB.

Still a lot of uncertainties. 

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EPS days 10-15, 500mb

Screenshot_20230108-134641_Chrome.thumb.jpg.bfa8ef92e4ec6c441f6e00b495dcf03f.jpg

 

 That's going to be warm 2m temp wise but begins to transition 21st & ends up like this 23rd. Temps will begin to cool. 

Screenshot_20230108-134658_Chrome.thumb.jpg.15e93b830c148576dc11636ba03411f9.jpg

 

Canadian ensemble mean

Screenshot_20230108-134750_Chrome.thumb.jpg.67e1baca7b5378112b1a7e4dcf0ba407.jpg

Hopefully we cool. CFS Weeklies get really cold 1st week through mid-FEB.

Still a lot of uncertainties. 

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To out in perspective the NAEFS image above covers JAN 16-23. Does not contradict anything said. 

NAEFS probabilities will start gradually coming when you get to the DEC 20-27 period. I'm not talking dark blue...lol. 

EDIT: This post is not for Rob just everyone. 

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46 minutes ago, Grace said:

To out in perspective the NAEFS image above covers JAN 16-23. Does not contradict anything said. 

NAEFS probabilities will start gradually coming when you get to the DEC 20-27 period. I'm not talking dark blue...lol. 

EDIT: This post is not for Rob just everyone. 

BTW, I certainly was not posting the NAEFS to refute your posts.  I'm quite sure you were not thinking that but wanted to post this anyway.  More coincidental timing of our posts 🙂

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Reminder that above average temperature periods can still produce significant snowfall in the heart of winter...

The following temperature anomalies still produce a decent 5"+ swath of snowfall according to the latest GFS

 

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1 hour ago, Pghsnow said:

Anyone want to start a thread... 😝🤣

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I saw that when the model popped and thought "damn, one can only dream of that type of setup!" The storm at the gulf with the northern energy diving in from the Rockies screams "INCOMING!" Alas...that will not be there in two weeks, but if it were to be, what a fun time would be had. 

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54 minutes ago, Cdfarabaugh said:

I wanna see a 384 hour snowmap..........lol

That storm would probably leave at least 50% of the country happy. Big ones are sniffed out early...

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3 hours ago, Pghsnow said:

Anyone want to start a thread... 😝🤣

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Don’t tempt me lol.. I started looking up teleconnections when I saw this. It is one of my life goals to start the thread that gets the #1 replies. 

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52 minutes ago, Grace said:

🙂

 

 

 

This has definitely been in the cards, the question I have is does this shake everything up completely, or is this another "blip" (5-14 days) before the Pacific rages again. I lean towards the latter, only because of what we have seen so far this year, but with little conviction. We've also seen events like this turn the West into a desert after starting off the season with strong precipitation totals in previous years. 

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8 hours ago, Grace said:

🙂

 

 

 

Yea ensembles starting to catch onto western ridge and retreat of the gulf of Alaska troughing. Looks to be around the 19th/20th timeframe. The last week of January may very well foster the idea of below average temps let see how it goes. Until then mid to upper 40's seem to be the name of the game. If we can get clear nights overall we can at least drop overnight temps a bit and allow a closer to average temp situation instead of constant +5-10 above average.

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