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16 minutes ago, junior said:

I like the NAM. I work but its one of those events where you can sit at the bay window and watch the snow. The orientation reminds me of that event years ago that busted low and we got almost 6" from a forecast of 1-3" due to the banding nature. (if i recall, been a minute)

 

13 minutes ago, RobB said:

I think I may remember this event.  It was quite a while ago..Assuming we are thinking the same one 🙂

If it's the same one, i remember models seem to lose the snow about 4-5 days out. It got to NAM range and starting coming back but on the NAM only until maybe 2 days out when the others caught back on.

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ILN afternoon discussion for this small system:

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
In fast mid level zonal flow pattern surface high pressure to
build across the area tonight into early Friday. Skies to start
out mostly clear tonight with increasing clouds overnight. Temperatures
are expected to drop to lows from the upper 20s across most of
the region with readings around 30 south of the Ohio River.

Mid level shortwave to track from the central Plains east-southeast
across the Ohio Valley Friday. Surface wave to pass to our
south thru the TN Valley. A shield of precipitation north of
the low, will spread across the area Friday afternoon. P-type
looks to be mainly snow with a mix of rain and snow south of
the Ohio River.

Forecast snow amounts generaLLY an inch or less. Highest totals
around an inch are expected across Eastern Indiana into
southwest Ohio. Road impacts will likely be limited, due to
ground and air temperatures. High temperatures to range from the
lower 30s northwest to the lower 40s southeast.
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20 minutes ago, RobB said:

ILN afternoon discussion for this small system:

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
In fast mid level zonal flow pattern surface high pressure to
build across the area tonight into early Friday. Skies to start
out mostly clear tonight with increasing clouds overnight. Temperatures
are expected to drop to lows from the upper 20s across most of
the region with readings around 30 south of the Ohio River.

Mid level shortwave to track from the central Plains east-southeast
across the Ohio Valley Friday. Surface wave to pass to our
south thru the TN Valley. A shield of precipitation north of
the low, will spread across the area Friday afternoon. P-type
looks to be mainly snow with a mix of rain and snow south of
the Ohio River.

Forecast snow amounts generaLLY an inch or less. Highest totals
around an inch are expected across Eastern Indiana into
southwest Ohio. Road impacts will likely be limited, due to
ground and air temperatures. High temperatures to range from the
lower 30s northwest to the lower 40s southeast.

Should have a new one in a couple of hours. I would guess there will be an increase in totals mentioned.

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13 minutes ago, snowlover2 said:

Should have a new one in a couple of hours. I would guess there will be an increase in totals mentioned.

They are probably so hesitant. Can't blame them. 

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SWS from IND

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Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Indianapolis IN
251 PM EST Thu Feb 15 2024

INZ021-028>031-035>049-051>057-060>065-067>072-160400-
Carroll-Warren-Tippecanoe-Clinton-Howard-Fountain-Montgomery-
Boone-Tipton-Hamilton-Madison-Delaware-Randolph-Vermillion-Parke-
Putnam-Hendricks-Marion-Hancock-Henry-Vigo-Clay-Owen-Morgan-
Johnson-Shelby-Rush-Sullivan-Greene-Monroe-Brown-Bartholomew-
Decatur-Knox-Daviess-Martin-Lawrence-Jackson-Jennings-
Including the cities of Delphi, Flora, Williamsport,
West Lebanon, Lafayette, West Lafayette, Frankfort, Kokomo,
Attica, Covington, Veedersburg, Crawfordsville, Lebanon,
Zionsville, Tipton, Fishers, Carmel, Noblesville, Anderson,
Muncie, Winchester, Union City, Farmland, Parker City, Clinton,
Fairview Park, Rockville, Montezuma, Rosedale, Greencastle,
Plainfield, Brownsburg, Danville, Indianapolis, Greenfield,
New Castle, Terre Haute, Brazil, Spencer, Gosport, Martinsville,
Mooresville, Greenwood, Franklin, Shelbyville, Rushville,
Sullivan, Carlisle, Shelburn, Farmersburg, Linton, Bloomfield,
Jasonville, Worthington, Bloomington, Nashville, Columbus,
Greensburg, Vincennes, Washington, Loogootee, Shoals, Bedford,
Mitchell, Seymour, and North Vernon
251 PM EST Thu Feb 15 2024

...ACCUMULATING SNOW ON FRIDAY...

Snow will begin after sunrise Friday morning across northern
portions of central Indiana and then spread south and east into
the afternoon.

One to two inches of snow are expected, with the highest amounts
expected in the Interstate 70 corridor. Locally higher amounts are
possible, especially from the I-70 corridor south to a
Bloomington to Columbus line.

The snow may impact the late afternoon rush hour.

This remains a developing situation, with potential changes in
amounts and the locations of the highest amounts. Stay tuned for
later updates.

Cold temperatures Friday night could cause lingering water on
roads to freeze.

 

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ILN holding off on advisory for now but say that an advisory or more could be needed.

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.SHORT TERM /8 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT/...
Interesting setup with the system moving into the area Friday
into Friday night. There are some concerning signals starting to
develop that there will be some Fgen forcing and banding of
snow across portions of the region. Increased snowfall values
quite a bit with this forecast package, however did not go as
high as they could be and did not go with an advisory do to a
few factors. There is definitely the potential that an advisory
or perhaps more in isolated locations will be needed if these
current trends continue.

Confidence factors include the banded set up with very good
forcing that is expected. Also leading to confidence is general
model agreement.

Less confidence factors include time of day with warm ground,
signal for drier air south of the best banding meaning there
will likely be a decent gradient, warmer air across southern
portions of the region, and recent shift in model solutions
towards this higher snowfall solution.

As mentioned, increased values and trended towards higher
snowfall values and will increase messaging with this package
to allow for greater awareness of accumulating snowfall
potential that is expected. Also increased wording moreso in
the HWO.

 

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At this point in this season, I'm rooting for futility or 6"+. Anything in between is annoying. But my thoughts/emotions don't control the weather, so I guess I won't be upset to watch a wintry scene tomorrow night... 🙃

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I’m pretty optimistic on this (relatively speaking).

I think a clipper like this is more likely surprise to the upside to the downside (and maybe that’s what the models are starting to sniff out in 18Z).

Also, as I said before, Saturday is cold.  Snow won’t be gone instantly which is nice!

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"There are some concerning signals starting to develop that there will be some Fgen forcing and banding of snow across portions of the region."

YASSSSSSS. Give me all the concerning signals. 😆

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17 minutes ago, BuckeyeGal said:

"There are some concerning signals starting to develop that there will be some Fgen forcing and banding of snow across portions of the region."

YASSSSSSS. Give me all the concerning signals. 😆

😄 definitely my laugh for the day, but I agree.....show me how concerning it can be 😂

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