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30 minutes ago, ionizer said:

Anyone know approx starting time Friday for Monmouth county NJ?  Heading up north to VT (go figure) and don't want to leave in the snow if I can avoid it

Nizer....

Friday Night Snow, mainly after 10pm. Low around 29. West wind around 5 mph becoming northeast after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible

 

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4 minutes ago, Doorman said:

Nizer....

Friday Night Snow, mainly after 10pm. Low around 29. West wind around 5 mph becoming northeast after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible

 

ThAnks, that should give me time to get out of here

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LWX re the forecast.

.SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/...
Very brief high pressure quickly traverses the area on Friday,
bringing dry conditions for the daytime hours. Highs expected to
reach the 30s in the Alleghenies, and 40s to low 50s elsewhere.

A fast moving clipper system is forecast to track along or near the
I-64 corridor in the southern 1/3rd of the CWA Friday tonight into
Saturday morning. This system is going to bring widespread snow to
most of the forecast area, with rain likely in areas south of the
low`s track. The 18Z/12Z guidance continues to trend upwards
with QPF and forecast snow amounts, with favorable dynamics for
banding and high snow rates. Temps aloft are expected to be cold
to support snow throughout the event. The highest snow amounts
are likely in the Alleghenies and where any banding features
develop (which at this point is difficult to pin down). In the
Alleghenies, forecast snow amounts of 4-6" with isolated higher
amounts up to 8" possible. Elsewhere, forecast snow amounts of
1-3" with isolated higher amounts of 4-6" possible. The Blue
Ridge could see 2-5" of snow. Again, those higher end amounts
are going to depend on where snow bands set up.

The Winter Weather Watches remain for the Alleghenies and parts of
the Potomac Highlands where confidence is high for 4-6" of snow.
Farther east, the uptick in forecast snow amounts and impressive
model soundings suggests there is a threat for warning criteria.
Again, where this occurs is difficult to highlight, but hourly
rates of 1 to 2 inches are possible overnight. This would
quickly cover roads and lead to hazardous travel. As such,
Winter Storm Watches now extend from the Mason-Dixon Line down
to the northern suburbs of D.C. and Baltimore. Additionally,
these cover areas of northern/central Virginia as well as the
Shenandoah Valley.

With snow expected to arrive late Friday night, any decisions
for related warnings and/or advisories should occur tonight.
Stay tuned to the latest updates at weather.gov/lwx/winter.

Precipitation ends from west to east Saturday morning, with any
lingering light snow east of I-95 ending by late morning. Mountain
snow showers continue through the afternoon. High pressure builds in
Saturday afternoon as dry conditions prevail. Temperatures quickly
rebound to the 30s to low 40s outside of the mountains, which should
allow a good/most of the snow on the ground to melt. Where snow
remains, increasing northwesterly winds could lead to a bit of
blowing snow given the high SLR/fluffy nature of the snowpack.
Temperatures Saturday night drop to 20s, with 10s for the
mountains.
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Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
907 PM EST Thu Feb 15 2024

DCZ001-MDZ003>006-008-011-013-014-016>018-502>508-VAZ025>031-
036>040-050-051-053>057-501-502-505-506-508-526-527-WVZ051>053-
161100-
District of Columbia-Washington-Frederick MD-Carroll-
Northern Baltimore-Cecil-Southern Baltimore-Prince Georges-
Anne Arundel-Charles-St. Marys-Calvert-
Central and Eastern Allegany-Northwest Montgomery-
Central and Southeast Montgomery-Northwest Howard-
Central and Southeast Howard-Northwest Harford-Southeast Harford-
Augusta-Rockingham-Shenandoah-Frederick VA-Page-Warren-Clarke-
Nelson-Albemarle-Greene-Madison-Rappahannock-Orange-Culpeper-
Fairfax-Arlington/Falls Church/Alexandria-Stafford-Spotsylvania-
King George-Northern Fauquier-Southern Fauquier-Western Loudoun-
Eastern Loudoun-Central Virginia Blue Ridge-
Northwest Prince William-
Central and Southeast Prince William/Manassas/Manassas Park-
Morgan-Berkeley-Jefferson-
Including the cities of Washington, Hagerstown, Frederick,
Ballenger Creek, Eldersburg, Westminster, Reisterstown,
Cockeysville, Elkton, Baltimore, Bowie, Suitland-Silver Hill,
Clinton, College Park, Greenbelt, Laurel, Camp Springs,
Glen Burnie, Annapolis, Severn, South Gate, Severna Park, Arnold,
Odenton, St. Charles, Waldorf, Lexington Park, California,
Chesapeake Beach, Huntingtown, Dunkirk, North Beach, Lusby,
Prince Frederick, Cumberland, Germantown, Damascus, Bethesda,
Rockville, Gaithersburg, Silver Spring, Lisbon, Columbia,
Ellicott City, Jarrettsville, Aberdeen, Staunton, Waynesboro,
Stuarts Draft, Harrisonburg, Strasburg, Woodstock, Mount Jackson,
New Market, Winchester, Luray, Shenandoah, Stanley, Front Royal,
Berryville, Lovingston, Charlottesville, Stanardsville, Madison,
Orange, Gordonsville, Culpeper, Reston, Herndon, Annandale,
Centreville, Chantilly, McLean, Franconia, Arlington, Alexandria,
Falls Church, Falmouth, Fredericksburg, Dahlgren, Warrenton,
Turnbull, Purcellville, Leesburg, Ashburn, Sterling, Wintergreen,
Haymarket, Dale City, Manassas, Woodbridge, Lake Ridge,
Montclair, Paw Paw, Martinsburg, Charles Town, and Shepherdstown
907 PM EST Thu Feb 15 2024

...ACCUMULATING SNOW POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT...

Snow will overspread the area from west to east Friday evening and
exit Saturday morning. Generally one to three inches of snow is
expected at this time. Localized totals upwards of four to six
inches are possible wherever the bands of snow set up. Snowfall
rates of one to two inches per hour are possible in these bands.

Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous conditions could
impact travel Friday night into Saturday morning.

 

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700mb

Sweet Spot  nice inflow  ATM

Plus 6hr prog - If it were to hold

all the way over to the coast???

Extrap the flat zonal flow and bingo 

Higher end snows in your neck of the woods

d-man

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Looks like we may play the two band game. 700mb fronto region and 850mb fronto region.

700mb looks like it may set up right along the pa border while 850mb may be down around DC southern Baltimore area/ eastern shore.

Which one produces more will be interesting to watch but it really depends on where the best VV's (vertical velocities) are do they happen lower in the atmosphere because it is a shallow system or further up. Either way a nice 2-4" event in the Mid Atlantic with some places getting awfully close to that warning level with how cold it will be aloft.

Enjoy!

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Upstream discussions should translate east rather nicely. Note the mention of dual stripes of snow - similar to what SoWhat's mentioned.

AFDILN (Dayton, OH) 

Favorable axis of frontogenetic forcing develops into eastern
Indiana and western Ohio by 18Z and works east-southeast across
the area this aftn into early evening. This signal points to
the potential for enhanced banded snow. Model solutions -
especially the hi-res models solutions indicate a dual axis of
enhanced snow. One across the I-70 corridor where the thermal
profile lines up with favorable forcing and a second axis from
northern KY thru south central Ohio. Snow to liquid ratios are
more favorable north (around 15:1) with snow to liquid ratios
starting out around 7:1 across the south and then increasing to
13:1 this evening.

Model trends are generally higher with snow amounts and have
adjusted the forecast with up to 3 inches across the I-70
corridor. For the far southern band have up to 2 inches thru
evening. High confidence in snow across the entire area but
medium confidence in the location of the highest amounts.
Uncertainty exists due to the banded nature of the pcpn - so
slight areal adjustments to the these bands will affect the
axis of highest snow totals. Also, ground temperatures begin
warm but cool to freezing by evening, so impacts to roads will
be limited initially until better rates come into play
overcoming the warm ground.

 

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LWX 

SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...
A fast moving clipper system is forecast to track across
southern Virginia tonight into Saturday morning. Cold air aloft
will be in place for much of the area, although the thermal
gradient will be very close to central Virginia and southern
Maryland. Surface temperatures may be a few degrees above
freezing at onset and may fail to drop much below freezing
closer to the waters/urban areas and from Charlottesville to
southern Maryland. However, the snow rates and overnight time
frame will result in some accumulation across much of the area,
with the main question mark being south of I-64. Onset time will
be between 7 PM and midnight from west to east. Strong
frontogentical forcing and the cyclonic side of a 200 kt jet
aloft will result in very strong lift and good dendrite growth.
This will lead to banding potential with 1-2 inch per hour
rates. The location of the heavier bands remains in question,
however the overall QPF maximum lies squarely across our
forecast area. Travel will likely quickly deteriorate due to the
snow rates. The main limiting factor is the very fast movement
of the system, with most areas only seeing 3 or 4 hours of
heavier snow rates. Snow will quickly depart to the east around
or just after sunrise, except for some light lingering upslope
snow which could last into the afternoon.

Headlines have been adjusted based on confidence. Warnings have
been issued for the Alleghenies and northern Virginia Blue Ridge
where colder temperatures (and upslope component) should result
in higher totals. Advisories have been issued in eastern areas
for a general 2 to 4 inches (a little less in the south and
perhaps a locally higher total under any banding). The Watch
remains in place to the northwest due to continued uncertainty
on placement and magnitude of any banding. This will likely be
resolved into an advisory or warning later this morning.

Gradual clearing, gusty winds, and highs in the mid 30s to mid
40s in the lower elevations should allow for melting Saturday
afternoon. Saturday night will be chilly with lows in the teens
and 20s.

Gusty winds continue Sunday as low pressure moves toward the St.
Lawrence Valley. Temperatures will climb closer to climo though.

 

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Just now, Wtkidz said:

06z Gfs 

I know not short range model but why not?

a bit warmer  still a very fast mover,

 

 

 

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Yes - w/o potential for any phasing, and with NAO Neut right now, there is practically NOTHING to slow it down in the least. 

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