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February 12-13, 2024 | Winter Storm


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Honestly, I feel like its overperforming right now near Hazleton.... near 4" and coming down hard. I was so worried earlier with the trends south... will see where we end up but wow, cranking right now

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Indirectly related.  Once the models backed off the snow up here, my temp forecasts definitely crept up.   Still snow in my yard, but many places exposed to the sun are giving up the ghost. 

Hoping to see some nice snow pictures, but without any power outage  issues. 

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
409 AM EST Tue Feb 13 2024

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
After extensive revisions to the forecast last evening,
guidance has finally come to a relative concensus regarding the
low pressure crossing the region this morning. As of 4 AM, the
rain-line is a bit south of the I-78 corridor, with snow as far
south as Reading, Perkasie and Somerville, but sleet just south
of there and rain still falling across Philly metro. Expect the
line to continue working southward over the next several hours
with snow falling across the I-95 corridor by the middle of rush
hour. This will unfortunately coincide with the arrival of the
heaviest precipitation associated with the comma-head of the low
pressure passing to our south. Thus, we could see rapid
deterioration of conditions on the Philly metro roadways just as
they are filling with traffic, a potentially very bad
combination. We urge anyone with travel plans this morning to
delay until afternoon if possible, when conditions will improve
markedly as the storm moves out.

It appears now that the rain-line will eventually sweep
southeastward all the way to Cape May County and central
Delaware before precip tapers off near or just after noon, but
significant accumulations will remain confined to areas north.
Inherited a fairly wide coverage of winter storm warnings just
north of the metro and a tier of winter weather advisories
further south across the metro itself. Think these still look
reasonable, though uncertainty remains about just how effective
snow accumulations will be this morning in areas where it is
currently still rain. Would not be shocked if parts of the
advisory area hit warning criteria while others fail to reach
advisory, but that`s a tough nut to crack right now and have no
confidence in further changes at this time. Further north, the
extreme northern areas might see precip taper off a little
earlier, so we might struggle to reach warning levels in the far
northern Poconos and NW NJ. Overall, nudged totals back slightly
across the warning areas to a general 4-8 given a relatively
rapid departure of the system near midday and the heaviest
precip likely staying a bit further south.

Aside from the snow, winds will be gusty right along the
immediate coast. Not quite confident we`ll see widespread 40 kt
gusts but spotty remains possible so have left wind advisory as
inherited. Looks like strongest winds are this morning. Further
inland, while winds will be less, the combination of heavy wet
snows and gusty winds may result in downed trees, so we`ll need
to watch out for that as well this morning. Rainfall totals
where it is mainly rain remain in the 1-1.5 inch range, but
given its mostly in the sandy coastal plain, we continue to not
have significant flood concerns.

By mid-afternoon the storm will be long gone as it quickly hauls
east off the coast, with skies breaking for some sun and temps
likely rebounding back towards 40, so expect some decent melting
this afternoon. However, as temps will fall back below freezing
tonight, re-freeze will be a concern overnight tonight for
anything not treated. Otherwise, just a brisk and chilly night
on tap with temps not far from normal for this time of year,
mostly in the 20s. There could be a few flurries in the Poconos,
but dry otherwise.

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2 minutes ago, Doorman said:
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
409 AM EST Tue Feb 13 2024

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
After extensive revisions to the forecast last evening,
guidance has finally come to a relative concensus regarding the
low pressure crossing the region this morning. As of 4 AM, the
rain-line is a bit south of the I-78 corridor, with snow as far
south as Reading, Perkasie and Somerville, but sleet just south
of there and rain still falling across Philly metro. Expect the
line to continue working southward over the next several hours
with snow falling across the I-95 corridor by the middle of rush
hour. This will unfortunately coincide with the arrival of the
heaviest precipitation associated with the comma-head of the low
pressure passing to our south. Thus, we could see rapid
deterioration of conditions on the Philly metro roadways just as
they are filling with traffic, a potentially very bad
combination. We urge anyone with travel plans this morning to
delay until afternoon if possible, when conditions will improve
markedly as the storm moves out.

It appears now that the rain-line will eventually sweep
southeastward all the way to Cape May County and central
Delaware before precip tapers off near or just after noon, but
significant accumulations will remain confined to areas north.
Inherited a fairly wide coverage of winter storm warnings just
north of the metro and a tier of winter weather advisories
further south across the metro itself. Think these still look
reasonable, though uncertainty remains about just how effective
snow accumulations will be this morning in areas where it is
currently still rain. Would not be shocked if parts of the
advisory area hit warning criteria while others fail to reach
advisory, but that`s a tough nut to crack right now and have no
confidence in further changes at this time. Further north, the
extreme northern areas might see precip taper off a little
earlier, so we might struggle to reach warning levels in the far
northern Poconos and NW NJ. Overall, nudged totals back slightly
across the warning areas to a general 4-8 given a relatively
rapid departure of the system near midday and the heaviest
precip likely staying a bit further south.

Aside from the snow, winds will be gusty right along the
immediate coast. Not quite confident we`ll see widespread 40 kt
gusts but spotty remains possible so have left wind advisory as
inherited. Looks like strongest winds are this morning. Further
inland, while winds will be less, the combination of heavy wet
snows and gusty winds may result in downed trees, so we`ll need
to watch out for that as well this morning. Rainfall totals
where it is mainly rain remain in the 1-1.5 inch range, but
given its mostly in the sandy coastal plain, we continue to not
have significant flood concerns.

By mid-afternoon the storm will be long gone as it quickly hauls
east off the coast, with skies breaking for some sun and temps
likely rebounding back towards 40, so expect some decent melting
this afternoon. However, as temps will fall back below freezing
tonight, re-freeze will be a concern overnight tonight for
anything not treated. Otherwise, just a brisk and chilly night
on tap with temps not far from normal for this time of year,
mostly in the 20s. There could be a few flurries in the Poconos,
but dry otherwise.

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Think these still look reasonable, though uncertainty remains about just how effective snow accumulations will be this morning in areas where it is currently still rain. Would not be shocked if parts of the advisory area hit warning criteria while others fail to reach advisory, but that`s a tough nut to crack right now and have no confidence in further changes at this time.

Every single AFD I've read, and every TV broadcast mentions how low confidence is, even now as the event is underway. 

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1 minute ago, Anthonyweather said:

4” here already In lower carbon… 6” in higher carbon…. Already busted northern areas 

 

 

dumping…

 

 

Lehigh valley at a coating, but didn’t really start yet 

THE toughest one to make calls on - that I can remember anyway. 

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2 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

Every single AFD I've read, and every TV broadcast mentions how low confidence is, even now as the event is underway. 

Yea these event are no joke in how difficult it is to forecast. I do not envy those having to make a forecast at NWS offices the last 24 hours.

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15 minutes ago, so_whats_happening said:

Lancaster has officially gone over to snow same with York. Really heavy band setting up over the area shortly.

Right on. Coating on the grass already. SE of York.

Already starting to cover paved surfaces, too.

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2 minutes ago, Weathertop said:

Right on. Coating on the grass already. SE of York.

Already starting to cover paved surfaces, too.

Oh boy I leave in an hour and hope to be up that way by 7am. Hope this doesn't get bad quickly.

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7 minutes ago, Anthonyweather said:

4” here already In lower carbon… 6” in higher carbon…. Already busted northern areas 

 

 

dumping…

 

 

Lehigh valley at a coating, but didn’t really start yet 

??? . Here we are approaching 4. Plows went thru half hour ago in New Trip.

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2 minutes ago, Doorman said:

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I forecasted better on my ole C-64  

I miss Elliot Abrams 

Just now, so_whats_happening said:

Oh boy I leave in an hour and hope to be up that way by 7am. Hope this doesn't get bad quickly.

Roads already covered - best of luck 

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8 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

Every single AFD I've read, and every TV broadcast mentions how low confidence is, even now as the event is underway. 

It felt like many mets held on to the northern/warmer track longer even after model consensus over multiple runs shifted elsewhere. My concern from the beginning was that no one down here was taking this threat seriously. This is going to hit right before rush hour and dump snow for 6 hours or so. If the city isn’t prepared it’s going to get bad out there.

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2 minutes ago, Snowadelphia said:

It felt like many mets held on to the northern/warmer track longer even after model consensus over multiple runs shifted elsewhere. My concern from the beginning was that no one down here was taking this threat seriously. This is going to hit right before rush hour and dump snow for 6 hours or so. If the city isn’t prepared it’s going to get bad out there.

This 100%, people think this could be a non-event in the area. With heavy snowfall rates right before and during rush hour are going to make commutes miserable.

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