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February 12-13, 2024 | Winter Storm


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1 hour ago, StretchCT said:

I dislike the "windshield wiper effect" being used as a rationale as to the movement of the storm track in models.  Just saying "oh it's just the windshield wiper effect" seems like a cop out, particularly for well established and well seasoned meteorologists.  This really is a good example of it though.   

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To be honest, I don't think this is too bad of.a spread.  It consistently shows a storm, a snow storm at, that for about 2.5 days.  Just the axis of heaviest snow goes between BWI/DCA to ALB. But we are within 5 days now, so lets hone that down to say the MA/CT and NY/PA line to I 78.  

As MaineJay pointed out it's all the upstream interactions and subtle changes have implications downstream.

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For those concerned about cold. This is the 925mb layer (2500feet), which I'll use to demonstrate how it's getting cold, since it isn't affected too much by diurnal temp swings.

It's warm through Saturday, even reaching 10c imby.  Then you see the blues pushing into the area on Sunday.  This is well ahead of the storm.  By the end of the run, the storm is entering our area.  The blue you see coming down from the north is cold air advection from a cold front.  The blue you see starting around the storm dosn in Texas is the cold air that the storm itself generates.  

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1 hour ago, Penn State said:

That's surprising to me.. love it.. but I can't possibly be in the bullseye. It just feels way too warm here. 

I agree, I am in the same boat.  Feels way too warm but we're still out a few days so enough time for it to cool down

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Just now, clm said:

I agree, I am in the same boat.  Feels way too warm but we're still out a few days so enough time for it to cool down

It's really questionable for me in Franklin County.. That latest GFS run, the northern part of the county could see 6", while the southern part of the county sees 0". This is like PARS's 2016 happening to me.. Karma lol, Karma. 

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Just now, Penn State said:

It's really questionable for me in Franklin County.. That latest GFS run, the northern part of the county could see 6", while the southern part of the county sees 0". This is like PARS's 2016 happening to me.. Karma lol, Karma. 

I don't think anything like PARD's 2016 will ever happen to anyone lol

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850 mb (5000 feet) shows similar cold air advection combined with dynamic cooling. 

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That leaves the surface temps, but they should be cooler on Sunday and Monday.  This is the progression of surface temps for 12z

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1 minute ago, StretchCT said:

850 mb (5000 feet) shows similar cold air advection combined with dynamic cooling. 

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That leaves the surface temps, but they should be cooler on Sunday and Monday.  This is the progression of surface temps for 12z

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certainly if the right dynamics happen at the right time (mid levels) someone is gonna get a bunchasnow, even down my way, 

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3 minutes ago, Penn State said:

It's really questionable for me in Franklin County.. That latest GFS run, the northern part of the county could see 6", while the southern part of the county sees 0". This is like PARS's 2016 happening to me.. Karma lol, Karma. 

For me its either nothing (this can include rain/snow mix with no accumulation) or something.  Not a question of how much.  😢

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