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Seems We got hit hard in schuylkill co. Power is out in a lot of towns across the county. and trees still down across some roads. Just talked to a friend and he was told power maybe out till Thursday at 11pm.   Totally crazy!   

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16 hours ago, Doorman said:

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Band on the Run....

Entered the Billboard Hot 100 two months shy of 50 years ago today. Strangely enough, in Binghamton 50 years ago today, the max was 50, and I heard McCartney’s then- new tune “Jet” for the first time that week. Lol.

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15 hours ago, PA road DAWG said:

Man…..this one is going to hurt for a while.   Here I am thinking places just to my NW are a lock for 12”+ and it shifts to drastically and deamps to our SE.  I honestly have seen anything like this in quite some time.    All within 24-36 hours too 

It is analogous to studying hard for an exam and getting only in the 60s despite maximum effort. I hope you get another chance at a storm. The 1983 and 1996 storms were zero and a dusting for us in Binghamton, so I have been there. Then came the Virgafest of December 2009 and our three days of overcast during the 2016 storm. Our luck changed dramatically for Winter 2016-17, finally dismantling our snow dome. I hope your snow dome gets dismantled soon.

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I think this is better but Farmington had 15" so that's not on here. And i don't see any 8-12 inch reports west of Harrisburg .  Some 6 around Chambersburg,  Maybe wait until later.

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1 hour ago, StretchCT said:

I think this is better but Farmington had 15" so that's not on here. And i don't see any 8-12 inch reports west of Harrisburg .  Some 6 around Chambersburg,  Maybe wait until later.

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Based on the snow totals you posted earlier, there should be a narrow-ish band >12” in there.

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Ok i went back to yesterday from about 1-7 pm. I prob should recant the statement about the short rangers performance. It really is territorial, as i mentioned. They did great for LV. Didn’t do so well Philly and east. Much less than modeled. It is just so territorial. 
And Rayno was awful, and quite frankly, the hell with the old Cranky and the new Cranky. His explains are great, but wrong a lot. He was on the south trend train too far south. 
i just like that the short rangers did not bail too far south and east. 

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38 minutes ago, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said:

Ok i went back to yesterday from about 1-7 pm. I prob should recant the statement about the short rangers performance. It really is territorial, as i mentioned. They did great for LV. Didn’t do so well Philly and east. Much less than modeled. It is just so territorial. 
And Rayno was awful, and quite frankly, the hell with the old Cranky and the new Cranky. His explains are great, but wrong a lot. He was on the south trend train too far south. 
i just like that the short rangers did not bail too far south and east. 

Is that new guy actually cranky? 

 

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7 hours ago, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said:

Ok i went back to yesterday from about 1-7 pm. I prob should recant the statement about the short rangers performance. It really is territorial, as i mentioned. They did great for LV. Didn’t do so well Philly and east. Much less than modeled. It is just so territorial. 
And Rayno was awful, and quite frankly, the hell with the old Cranky and the new Cranky. His explains are great, but wrong a lot. He was on the south trend train too far south. 
i just like that the short rangers did not bail too far south and east. 

Content Wx Guy - I did not see him on any train. He stuck with a 850 track that favored Central PA and NE of there. I did not notice him recanting. Since he is from New England (or so it seems) I'm not sure he was ever on the south trend. 

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7 hours ago, Uscg Ast said:

Is that new guy actually cranky? 

 

Everything I've seen says it's most definitely him. One would be hard pressed to replicate his style of drawing on maps and picking out key features to watch. And if not, he's one hell of a mimic. 

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9 hours ago, StretchCT said:

I think this is better but Farmington had 15" so that's not on here. And i don't see any 8-12 inch reports west of Harrisburg .  Some 6 around Chambersburg,  Maybe wait until later.

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Looks like they did a secondary update. Now there is a snow hole near Harrisburg...

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NOHRSC underdoes the 12-18 range (none), doesn't extent the 6-8/8-12 range into NE CT, overdoes the 6-8 in LI, underdoes RI 8-12.

EDIT: New map in from NOHRSC - should be the final one, except it missed Fairfield County over 12" But this is more in line with the nws obs. 

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72 hour challenge results. What I'm going for here is not exact amounts, but where the axis of heaviest snow is and how strong it is, and how widespread.  Put it in movie mode so you can pause each frame.  I used 10:1 because all the models had that, not all kuchera. I tried to go with the best ones first, then too far north then south.  Winner for me is the RGEM. CT, NNJ and NEPA were the axis of heaviest snow, the southern extent is pretty good. Boston area is a little off. The amounts overall are underdone, but it gives a pretty good picture of what would happen. Same with the CMC ensemble.  It's underdone, but got the axis of heaviest snow pretty good. A bit too far west though, which is a common problem. FV3 got the axis right, but overdid most of the non axis areas and went too far west too. Too wide of swath too. NAM got the axis fairly well, but way to far back and underdone. Way to wide a swath as the 6" is too far north and south.  The GFS through GEFS are too far north. The GDPS and Ukie too far south and too weak.

 

 

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For the 48 hrs suite, I thought in general it wasn't too bad from an overall look. Western PA was still overdone on most models.  I put the ones I liked first then moved north to south.  I mentioned yesterday that I was impressed with the ICON with some parts needing help.  In taking more time to do this, I have to hand this to our 72hr winner, baby G. ICON got the extreme axis right, RGEM got the overall look right with better north, west and south edges. I didn't mind NAM's overall look with decent N/S edges, a little overdone on the island but CPA was poor. ARW I liked the extreme areas, but N/S edges and CPA was poor. FV3 starts the too far north and is overdone. CMC was too wide. Once to the NSSL, these are more in line but have issues. NSSL is overdone and too wide. GFS was random, bad in WPA NE Mass, LI. HRDPS too wide. GEFS might be too far north, bad in PA, and too far south. RAP is too far north, out of order (sorry) and too strong. GEM sorta south with the main snow. Euro, EPS and UKIE too far south. Ukie too weak. HRRR was nuts, too much, too far south, too far north. 

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On 2/13/2024 at 11:29 AM, NJ Snowman said:

Is that Valley Road by the First Aid Building?

Yessir! I as behind them from BH/New Prov border all the way through and down to Shop Rite.

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24 hr Kuchera challenge.  Most were too south and underdone. CTP was an issue again. 

This is a Kuchera only slidedeck. Thinking ICON and RGEM/GEM again, though they were way underdone. Euro wasn't terrible. 

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33 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

For the 48 hrs suite, I thought in general it wasn't too bad from an overall look. Western PA was still overdone on most models.  I put the ones I liked first then moved north to south.  I mentioned yesterday that I was impressed with the ICON with some parts needing help.  In taking more time to do this, I have to hand this to our 72hr winner, baby G. ICON got the extreme axis right, RGEM got the overall look right with better north, west and south edges. I didn't mind NAM's overall look with decent N/S edges, a little overdone on the island but CPA was poor. ARW I liked the extreme areas, but N/S edges and CPA was poor. FV3 starts the too far north and is overdone. CMC was too wide. Once to the NSSL, these are more in line but have issues. NSSL is overdone and too wide. GFS was random, bad in WPA NE Mass, LI. HRDPS too wide. GEFS might be too far north, bad in PA, and too far south. RAP is too far north, out of order (sorry) and too strong. GEM sorta south with the main snow. Euro, EPS and UKIE too far south. Ukie too weak. HRRR was nuts, too much, too far south, too far north. 

 

 

What?  You didn't imitate Pavarotti for audio?  😁

Thanks, great video.  HRRR definitely was on the Mitchell report.  UKIE was weak as you said but it did pretty much nail LI.  Other than that, don't think it got anything else.

Interesting to see how the different models got different results.  All that technology and still Mother Nature says she'll do what she wants.

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17 hours ago, StretchCT said:

Binghamton totals

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National Weather Service Binghamton NY
1231 PM EST Tue Feb 13 2024

...SNOWFALL REPORTS FOR FEBRUARY 12-13, 2024 WINTER STORM...

Location                     Amount    Time/Date       Provider

...New York...

...Sullivan County...
Glen Spey                    8.0 in    1045 AM 02/13   Public
1 NNW Wurtsboro              2.9 in    0830 AM 02/13

...Pennsylvania...

...Lackawanna County...
1 WNW Springbrook Corner     7.0 in    0830 AM 02/13   Public
Springbrook Corner           7.0 in    1040 AM 02/13   Public
Gouldsboro                   6.0 in    0700 AM 02/13   Public
Clarks Summit                3.5 in    0750 AM 02/13   Public
1 S Scranton                 3.3 in    1045 AM 02/13   Public
3 WSW Elmhurst               3.0 in    0925 AM 02/13   Public
Moosic                       3.0 in    1020 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Dalton                       2.0 in    0900 AM 02/13   Public
Throop                       1.5 in    0845 AM 02/13   Public
Archbald 1.6 SW              1.0 in    0745 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
Vandling 0.1 NNE             0.5 in    0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS

...Luzerne County...
Hazleton                     13.4 in   1000 AM 02/13   Public
White Haven 1.5 NW           11.0 in   0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
3 S Albert                   11.0 in   0937 AM 02/13
Drums                        10.3 in   1028 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Bear Creek                   10.0 in   0940 AM 02/13   Public
4 ENE Freeland               9.5 in    0600 AM 02/13   Public
Fairview Hgts                8.9 in    0945 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Slocum                       8.5 in    0850 AM 02/13   Public
Sugar Notch                  8.5 in    0900 AM 02/13   Public
Nanticoke                    8.5 in    1130 AM 02/13   Public
Beach Haven 0.8 E            8.2 in    0915 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
1 NW Conyngham               8.0 in    0900 AM 02/13   Public
1 SE Albert                  8.0 in    0945 AM 02/13
1 NW Preston                 6.5 in    0830 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
1 N Sugar Notch              6.5 in    0830 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Nescopeck                    6.0 in    0930 AM 02/13   Public
Edwardsville                 5.6 in    0855 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
1 SE Plymouth                5.2 in    0900 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Forty Fort                   5.0 in    0900 AM 02/13   Public
Plains                       5.0 in    0930 AM 02/13   Public
Pringle                      4.8 in    0830 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Forty Fort 0.4 NNE           4.2 in    0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
Avoca                        4.1 in    0830 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
West Pittston                4.0 in    0930 AM 02/13   Public
Duryea                       3.5 in    0845 AM 02/13   Public
Dallas                       3.5 in    0905 AM 02/13   Public
Pittston                     3.5 in    1045 AM 02/13   Public
Duryea 0.3 SE                2.0 in    0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
Harding                      2.0 in    0945 AM 02/13   Public
Harveys Lake 1.5 W           1.8 in    0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS

...Pike County...
Shohola                      15.0 in   1000 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Milford                      14.0 in   1000 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Dingmans Ferry               14.0 in   1000 AM 02/13   Public
6 SE Lords Valley            14.0 in   1210 PM 02/13   Public
Lords Valley 2.5 SE          10.0 in   0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
Lords Valley                 9.0 in    0720 AM 02/13   Public
Milford 8.7 NW               7.9 in    0700 AM 02/13   COCORAHS
3 E Panther                  4.0 in    0530 AM 02/13   Public
1 NE Kimbles                 3.5 in    1054 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter

...Susquehanna County...
Forest City                  0.4 in    0945 AM 02/13   Public

...Wayne County...
1 E Gouldsboro               10.0 in   1100 AM 02/13   Public
Newfoundland                 6.0 in    0630 AM 02/13   Public
Lake Ariel                   6.0 in    0945 AM 02/13   Public
1 E Cortez                   2.8 in    1015 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Beach Lake                   2.0 in    0900 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
Honesdale                    1.5 in    1020 AM 02/13   Public
Dyberry - 19                 0.8 in    0655 AM 02/13   COCORAHS

...Wyoming County...
1 ESE Mill City              1.2 in    0830 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter
1 SSE Lake Winola            1.2 in    0845 AM 02/13   Public
Tunkhannock                  0.3 in    0830 AM 02/

 

And Binghamton itself got a whopping trace through midnight yesterday— and that may have been lake effect. The Midwest version of the storm missed us entirely in STL. Lol.

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There should be a study on the 24hr/0z run and the shift south that really all the models threw our way for this one.  I put two NBM runs first, they were the furthest north. SREF was next furthest north. But no model won this.  The least worst were the ICON and GEM/RGEM again. ICON with 3.4 in Springfield, and 2.7 in Philly did pretty well on those edges (relative to others).  Euro wasn't the worst here and UKIE did the blind squirrel finds nut routine.   Most were underdone, nearly all were too far south.  

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