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January 30–February 1, 2024 Mid-Atl/NE Winter Storm Potential


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Uptons early assesment

Energy from the clipper low, which current 00Z guidance shows
somewhere in the central to southern Appalachians Tuesday night into
Wednesday morning, will transfer energy to a developing coastal low
Wednesday night off of the Carolina shore. At the same time, a low
will be dropping down from Hudson Bay around this time with some
colder air. Some previous 12Z guidance showed 850mb temps -20C from
the polar vortex, while current guidance has significantly trimmed
back on those projections, closer to -3-6C. Goes to show the
variability between model run cycles and the uncertainty surrounding
what may transpire late in the week. For now, have gone with blended
guidance keeping temperatures closer to average. Weak high pressure
in between these systems appear to keep POPs out of the forecast or
at least very low, but given that this is near the end of the
forecast period, this may change.

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Mt Holly's longer view

.LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/...
The long term period overall looks rather benign with temperatures
right around normal. A clipper system will try to move in during the
middle of next week, but guidance has been all over the place with
the track as it dives in from the Great Lakes. At most, any
rain/snow looks to be light if it even does clip our region, but
nothing looks impactful at this time.

Getting into the day by day forecast, a mid-level ridge will pass
overhead Monday Night into Tuesday. An area of high pressure will
nudge in from the north, moving southeastward off the New England
coast by Tuesday Night  The result will be quiet weather and
temperatures Monday and Tuesday Night in the mid to upper 20s, with
low 30s in the usual warmer spots. Highs Tuesday will generally be
in the low to mid 40s with some peeks of sun.

A trough digs down from the Upper Midwest Tuesday Night, with a weak
low diving southeast towards the Piedmont region. Both the 00z
GFS/ECMWF take these features south of the region with the 00z GEM
taking a more northward track, which would bring some precip to the
region. Kept mentionable PoPs out for now for the Tuesday
Night/Wednesday period, but it is not out of the question for some
light rain/snow showers. However, nothing looks overly impactful at
this time. As the weak surface low moves off the coast, most of the
guidance takes it harmlessly offshore while a few ensemble members
bring it up the coast. The likelihood of this happening remains low
however and the mid to late next week period should be dry.
Temperatures will hover around normal for Wednesday/Thursday (low to
mid 40s).

 

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51 minutes ago, kdskidoo said:

pretty high confidence that the models will not handle this upcoming pattern very well.

At least we can finally have high confidence in something!  😀

 

This modeling is beyond my current level of understanding--too many things happening!

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18 hours ago, StretchCT said:

The one behind it looks like some impressive energy

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This one does a doozy on the GFS after the one in this thread.

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3 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

Pretty crazy variety of outcomes - no AFDs wanna get too close to these scenarios

Oh I'm not criticizing them. You don't see me here making a call either.  It's just that the Sunday to Sunday time frame next week is fascinating. 

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2 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

Oh I'm not criticizing them. You don't see me here making a call either.  It's just that the Sunday to Sunday time frame next week is fascinating. 

I didn't take it that way. I know if they are tentative, we certainly can't be puffy chested with our calls either. 

I don't think I've ever seen anything much like this TBH. Maybe smaller similar versions but this protracted existence of so many pieces is unique to my memory 

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26 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

I didn't take it that way. I know if they are tentative, we certainly can't be puffy chested with our calls either. 

I don't think I've ever seen anything much like this TBH. Maybe smaller similar versions but this protracted existence of so many pieces is unique to my memory 

The waviness in the ops is astounding.  Again this is a bit later but it's crazy

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56 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

The likelihood of this happening remains low however and the mid to late next week period should be dry.

I could use some dry weather and slight breeze, if it’s not snowing get outta here! They’re above my pay grade, glad I don’t have to write those 

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Oh great, models LOVE HLB*

AFDCTP - Extended

Some snow showers could linger into the mid to late morning
hours on Monday. Otherwise some rain and snow showers at times
next week,
as temperatures moderate to above normal levels later
in the week. Some spread between the GFS and EC with how the
systems track and phase. The main thing that shows up is the
signal for an Omega block setting up at higher latitudes with
time and a jet stream well to the south
. Some support for colder
weather again by next weekend.

*(HLB= High Latitude Blocking; a glossary entrant?) 
 

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GEFS still offering up a buffet of options. Mother some inverted troffing?  Maybe let the southern parcel slip away and let the northern stream do the heavy lifting?  A nice phased storm is probably not on the menu however.

 

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1 hour ago, MaineJay said:

GEFS still offering up a buffet of options. Mother some inverted troffing?  Maybe let the southern parcel slip away and let the northern stream do the heavy lifting?  A nice phased storm is probably not on the menu however.

 

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Can we go eat somewhere else then? 😁

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