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8 minutes ago, cperry29 said:

Supposedly the lowest recorded surface presssure in Indiana is 977. GFS has this at  970. Possible? Yes. Likely? 

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Again….the odds say no way that happens.  We’ll see.  I think we need to wait until our Tuesday system passes before we can lockdown this one.

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Hi all,

I have a general question but I want to apply the answer to this and future storms. In another bygone forum I remember someone posting snowfall amounts from numerical tables from the models by airport code. They posted the link eons ago and I've since lost it in a couple of PC migrations. You would enter the airport code you wanted and in the data you could tabulate the predicted snowfall for that airport by adding up the hourly liquid precipitation amounts and doing your 10:1 or Kuchera calculation.

I believe the site was hosted by a university, but my Google-fu is failing me. Does anybody know what I'm referring to?

 

Edit: I fired up an old PC and found the link. Unfortunately, the site is no longer available (charlie.wxcaster.com; charlie.wxcaster.com/text/gffsfc/GFS_CYXU.txt for my city).

Last edit: You can get the data and download as a .csv file from https://open-meteo.com/. The basic data I've selected is temperature and precipitation. The table gives me the hourly values for a ~7 day spread. Next is to figure out how to automatically pull the data. If you're a programmer, there's an API and a number of scripts. I bet I can pull this into a Home Assistant dashboard 🤔

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15 minutes ago, JayPSU said:

Again….the odds say no way that happens.  We’ll see.  I think we need to wait until our Tuesday system passes before we can lockdown this one.

The problem is we are only a couple days away from what could be a high impact event 

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3 hours ago, Ohiobuckeye45 said:

After 2 explosive cutters within 5 days, who is creating the flooding rains thread

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For us Ohioans, the term/title "No Joy in Mudville" is taking on a whole new meaning.

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11 minutes ago, Hiramite said:

Pressures noted are the lowest for this run.  All in the Lakes.

 

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Nice!  Actually some fairly decent agreement there.  We have to hope that the Icon’s slower and weaker solution verifies for us in central Ohio.  Results in a nice front end thump followed by a dry slot.

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11 minutes ago, Hiramite said:

Pressures noted are the lowest for this run.  All in the Lakes.

 

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Despite there still being differences, it looks the models are closer to the same page. Despite the Ukie.. it's off drinking Whisky (or Whiskey)?

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2 minutes ago, easton229 said:

Wouldn’t be a winter storm without a low party over SEMI!!

It should be out of the way for game day!!

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1 minute ago, CrazyINwx said:

Despite there still being differences, it looks the models are closer to the same page. Despite the Ukie.. it's off drinking Whisky (or Whiskey)?

At the moment, it appears that its living up to its name.

 

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I posted somewhere a few pages back

"I don't think this will cut much", lol. The models have gone haywire since. Just blame it on me.😃

Personally, I think tomorrow's system is so dynamic that the models do not have a handle on the shakeout afterwards. They may or may not be in the right track. 

In the meantime, our good old buddy CFS gives all other models the finger & is going deep SE, 😆.

 

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1 hour ago, Hiramite said:

For us Ohioans, the term/title "No Joy in Mudville" is taking on a whole new meaning.

Is there a record low for pressure in this area for January?

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18 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

Is there a record low for pressure in this area for January?

 

The blizzard of 1/25-26/78.   957.7mb in Cleveland

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7 minutes ago, Grace said:

6z EPS ensembles improved compared to 0z

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6z

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Notice 6z has more members further east & SE than 0z. So the mean moved a little ESE. So not as many members cutting so drastically. At this point I'll take it.

Next frame:

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6z

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3 minutes ago, Grace said:

0zScreenshot_20240108-081521_Chrome.thumb.jpg.1bac01a70e97cef1a064d289956d693f.jpg

6z

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Notice 6z has more members further east & SE than 0z. So the mean moved a little ESE. So not as many members cutting so drastically. At this point I'll take it.

Next frame:

0z

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6z

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This is probably more helpful:

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6z

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Would figure the storm coming tonight/tomorrow would help to suppress this system more. Not really seeing it. Hard to ignore a NW trend once it's there as well.

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16 hours ago, Hiramite said:

I’m not sure this was worth missing a quarter of football for, but the Lions won so I’m in a good mood.

1/7/24 12z Low Party Tracker

GFS moved east, the rest of the group went west.

Icon included for @Iceresistance and @FortySixAnd32. I hope you both remember me next Christmas .

Still some timing differences.

 

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Last night's 0z run below.

 

Is that PO Box you posted earlier legit? If it is, Christmas may come early....

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9 minutes ago, Jpfalcon said:

Would figure the storm coming tonight/tomorrow would help to suppress this system more. Not really seeing it. Hard to ignore a NW trend once it's there as well.

Too bad that preceding clipper couldnt track south further, it stays up in the lakes, I think that would've helped keep the pattern from quickly allowing heights to pump out front as quick. 

Especially because a 995 clipper is no slouch 

A track SE from here would have helped down the road

 

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