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Jan. 15-17th, 2024 | NE/MidAtl Winter Storm


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11 minutes ago, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said:

Man, go to bed thinking everything pretty locked in. Then cuz very busy day, i look st NWS forecasts and see mixing here tomorrow morn in their forecasts. Didn’t see it at all eith model runs the last few days, and still don’t see it. Then come on here and see short rangers slightly increasing or holding steady with 3-6 hrre, leaning with higher end. Probably NWS just being NWS, hugging a certain model- just not sure which one 😀

Maybe covering butt and going with WPC? 

But that is odd because Holly pushes mix tight to the PA/NJ line but not over so far as Atown region. image.thumb.png.b185bf51a0b69195a1383f5c8f9f12b3.png

 

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Those east of 95 should be prepared for a glaze of ice. Given the surface cold air in place, this has a good chance at creating some travel headaches, especially as a light glaze is enough to snarl traffic and sidewalks. 

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17 minutes ago, Uscg Ast said:

Those east of 95 should be prepared for a glaze of ice. Given the surface cold air in place, this has a good chance at creating some travel headaches, especially as a light glaze is enough to snarl traffic and sidewalks. 

Thinking ice or rain? Seeing rain in NWS forecast and gaps in precip on several models runs for LI. I love snow, but freezing rain is a nasty bitch.

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18 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

Maybe covering butt and going with WPC? 

But that is odd because Holly pushes mix tight to the PA/NJ line but not over so far as Atown region. image.thumb.png.b185bf51a0b69195a1383f5c8f9f12b3.png

 

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Well, cough, cough, um, i was in a super hurry and pulled up the accu and weather channel forecasts on , um my phone.

i think punishment should be swift and severe, and i will probably will be shipped off to the forum minor leagues, Double A at best. 
 

All’s i can do is apologize, and perhaps try the sleep deprivation angle.

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Our forecast had been for about an inch of snow tomorrow but BTV has bumped us to 2'-4' in my location.  They still haven't put out a map for tomorrow but their forecast discussion points out this will be all snow, unlike the last several storms.  They also mention that thermal and moisture profiles suggest this could be an overachiever.  

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Confidence is increasing for a widespread light snowfall late
tonight into Tuesday, with latest guidance shifting qpf axis a bit
further north, with low end advisory possible for central/southern
VT. A well deserved and much needed widespread 2 to 5 inch snowfall
is expected for much of VT, with slightly less near the
International Border. Did I mention all snow and no mix with rain
too.

Water vapor shows an initial 5h s/w with a ribbon of enhanced mid
lvl moisture racing acrs the central MS River Valley and southern
Appalachian Mtns, while potent northern stream s/w energy is
entering the central High Plains. This secondary piece of energy wl
deepen today, while trying to phase with initial sub-tropical s/w
along the eastern Seaboard on Tuesday. While full phasing does not
occur, a little interaction and just enough negative tilt in
mid/upper lvl trof develops to advect slightly deeper moisture into
our cwa. In addition, left front quad of 250mb jet of 140 to 160
knots wl be angling toward our central cwa on Tues, helping to
enhance large scale synoptic ascent. Did note band of moderately
strong 700mb fgen forcing as mid/upper lvl trof crosses our cwa btwn
15-21z Tues, along with the associated uvv`s couplet. Initially some
moisture wl go toward saturating the column on Tues morning, but
sounding analysis indicates a rather large snow growth region with
favorable saturation in relation to ice cross section, supporting
good flake size. Sfc low pres is rather weak, so influence of trrn
should be minimal from winds. Bottom line a widespread light
snowfall is anticipated with a burst of moderate snow likely mid
day, when best forcing arrives associated with trof.

Thermal and moisture profiles suggest this could be an over-achiever
in terms of snowfall accumulation, thinking a general 2 to 5 inches
much of VT into Essex County NY and 1 to 4 over northern
NY/International Border area. A winter wx advisory wl probably be
needed for portions of the region. Temps hold in the 20s on Tues
with light southerly winds. Unfortunately, system is progressive and
light snow tapers off on Tues night and attention wl once again turn
to lake effect. Localized lake effect bands look to impact
SLV/Western Dacks late Tues into Weds, with additional snowfall
likely.

 

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41 minutes ago, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said:

Well, cough, cough, um, i was in a super hurry and pulled up the accu and weather channel forecasts on , um my phone.

i think punishment should be swift and severe, and i will probably will be shipped off to the forum minor leagues, Double A at best. 
 

All’s i can do is apologize, and perhaps try the sleep deprivation angle.

Da hurrier ya go, the behinder ya git. 

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Nice write up by Sterling. 
 

NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
Current forecast package remains on track with subtle changes
mentioned below.

So far, many areas have already received between a half inch to one
one inch of snowfall in and around the metros with slightly lower
amounts across the western mountains. Places like Washington DC and
Baltimore have not seen snowfall totals like this since early
January 2022. Currently, there is a bit of a lull in the snowfall
action as the initial wave of low pressure kicks north and east. An
additional wave of low pressure will approach from the west this
afternoon and evening allowing the snow to fill back in across the
region. The steadiest snowfall per the latest 12z hi-res
deterministic/ensemble guidance looks to fall during the late
afternoon and evening period. This is where most locations could
pick up a general 2 to 3 inches of snow with locally higher totals
of up to 4 inches (mainly confined to the crest of the Blue Ridge,
Catoctin Mountains, and extreme north-central MD). Winter Weather
Advisories remain in effect for these areas to encompass the
continued concern for slick travel as air and pavement temperatures
sit at or below freezing. Winter Storm Warnings have been issued
west of the Allegheny Front for additional snow accumulations of 4
to 8 inches. With folks traveling back from the long holiday weekend
and high snow to liquid ratios have opted for the upgrade from
advisory to warning. Current 12z hi-res guidance shows snow to
liquid ratios increasing to values greater than 18:1 as the
afternoon and evening progress on. This is the same time of when the
best forcing arrives for the greatest snowfall to accumulate.
With a fluffier snow expected we should be able to yield
slightly higher totals especially along Backbone Mountain in
Garrett Co. south along US-219 toward Spruce Knob and the
highest peaks of western Highland Co. On top of the snow will
come the wind chill with many locations in the warning zone
seeing feel like values hovering between +5 to -10 degrees
below zero heading into the late afternoon and overnight hours.

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See this is where i am screwed. The local tv station, with accu is telling everyone 1-3 inches, so not bad. Except they are low, over conservative as usual. So when we get 3-5 with low temps, roads won’t be good, plus walkways, driveways. But when we try to push them to Wednesday, they bitch cuz we ate only getting 1-3. And you wonder why i am so screwed up.

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Just now, RTC3-LAST CHANCE said:

See this is where i am screwed. The local tv station, with accu is telling everyone 1-3 inches, so not bad. Except they are low, over conservative as usual. So when we get 3-5 with low temps, roads won’t be good, plus walkways, driveways. But when we try to push them to Wednesday, they bitch cuz we ate only getting 1-3. And you wonder why i am so screwed up.

"But Tony said"...

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4 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

"But Tony said"...

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I like snow so I like that, but I think 3-6 should be 2-4 with lollipops of 5/6 here and there, and most of the 2-4 should be 1-3. 

Yes it’s light and fluffy but QPF isn’t that strong here.

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