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Jan. 15-17th, 2024 | NE/MidAtl Winter Storm


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3 hours ago, Penn State said:

The composite reflectivity is like.. off the charts. 
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Can confirm that is all snow came down relatively fine and heavy at times with visibility dropping one of the really fine snow that covers the roads quicker than the grass because how fine it is. Best describe it at is heaviest as a fog of white mist.

 

Temps in my area are in the low 20s and the brine is just about useless. Parts of the I-270  where the exits are are completely snowcovered. Was suprised how slick things got. Has lightened up some as looking at the radar theres a little break before more returns come over us.

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3 hours ago, Rickrd said:

For sure. I was thinking about my younger school days when all of a sudden we’d be let out during an out of nowhere snowstorm. But that was in the 70’s

Haven't been "surprised" by a snowfall since the early 2000's. And that was just a surprise over the amount being way underforcasted, as opposed to the storm itself being a surprise. 

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6 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

NWS talking about SLR of 15-16:1 with potential there for someone inland to see 20:1

It's been many moons since we've seen such ratios. 

It's a very fine pixel dust snow. If we can get the right dendritic growth as the costal takes over I think this could surprise.

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7 hours ago, HVSNOWSTORM said:

Hahaha there's a reason nobody even posts the fv3 except for MJ.🤭

Lol. I only post it because it's going to replace the loveable ole NAM. certainly seen more wrong than correct generally.

GYX

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Tonight: Top down saturation will bring thickening/lowering clouds
tonight as upstream shortwave approaches from the south and west.
Guidance consensus...including the 00Z HREF suggest snowfall along
the MA/NH border will hold off until right around daybreak...so have
CHC pops over this area as the tonight period ends.  Lows will have
a chance to dip into the single digits north with increasing cloud
cover to the south keeping lows in the teens to around 20.

Tuesday-Tuesday night: The guidance trend over the past 24 hours has
been a stronger coastal low pressure system which pushes further
west. In fact...some of the higher resolution guidance now pushes
the low ashore over eastern Maine late Tuesday.  This trend
necessitates another boost in QPF and snowfall amounts.  With the
system still remaining an open wave at H7...it`s still a quick
hitter with precipitation centered ahead of height fall max that
will drive through northern New England late Tuesday...with mid
level deformation remaining transient and pushing quickly into
downeast Maine.  DGZ placement looks good...though not as optimal as
with yesterday/s squalls but still supportive of decent snowfall
ratios.

Current forecast snowfall amounts increase from southwest to
northeast as the low strengthens...with 2-4" over southern NH and 3-
5" looking most likely across the Capital region of Maine west
through the western Maine mountains.  Amounts are sitting near our
winter weather advisory threshold.  Given that there remains a good
bit of spread among the ensemble guidance...in collaboration with
our neighbors we/ll await the dayshift to make a decision on the
need/placement of winter weather advisories. Given the current shift
in the guidance...southern NH as well as York County ME may see snow
arrive for the morning commute...so be prepared for potential
morning (and evening) travel impacts.  Finally...the western shift
may bring enough warm air into the midcoast to cause a mix or
changeover to rain Tuesday afternoon.

Low pressure pulls north and east of the region with snow tapering
to snow showers during the evening.  It will remain breezy through
the night with departing low pressure strengthening with
temperatures under cold advection dropping into the single digits
across the mountains with teens elsewhere and wind chills about 10F
colder than this.

 

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4 minutes ago, MaineJay said:

Lol. I only post it because it's going to replace the loveable ole NAM. certainly seen more wrong than correct generally.

GYX

 

Weather Matrix/Jesse F. is on a wx page I am also on FB. He proposes scrapping the entire NAM/FV3 effort and just extending HRRR (he may have been kidding - those were his words however)

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5 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

Weather Matrix/Jesse F. is on a wx page I am also on FB. He proposes scrapping the entire NAM/FV3 effort and just extending HRRR (he may have been kidding - those were his words however)

Lol. IMO, the NAM is superior to the FV3. As evidence I present today's event lol. But seriously I know the NAM has its moments where it looks like it shouldn't exist but it has value and has seemed to do okay with this event, assuming no huge swings from what model consensus is now.

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19 minutes ago, MaineJay said:

Lol. I only post it because it's going to replace the loveable ole NAM. certainly seen more wrong than correct generally.

GYX

 

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3 hours ago, HVSNOWSTORM said:

 

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Lol, it's not my decision.  I get the sense they are going to expand the HREF, as computing power is likely getting closer to being able to run high resolution ensembles.

  I was vocal when they made the decision to go with FV3 core in the GFS, I found the MPAS solution more attractive.  

I'm a nut shell FV3, is a square grid, but when placed on a sphere, it essentially requires scaling for each grid square, MPAS uses uniform shaped hexagons.

  I think it's funny people think I'm so negative and bearish with every post, not my intent. I'm usually just trying to point to important factors for a threat, if that shatters some of the unbridled optimism, not much I can do.

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Light snow borderline moderate right now. Not much must have been happening earlier because nothing even on the deck. If it keeps up like it is now it won't be long though. 

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Light snow started  around. 4;30 think I was very dry . 
 

about 1/2 “ but roads have been pre treated and today is a federal holiday so traffic should be lighter for my son who drives what I used to do a 130 mile round trip for work. 
 

25 and light snow. 

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Snow. High near 32. Calm wind becoming southeast around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Total daytime snow accumulation of around an inch possible. 
Tonight
Snow before 4am, then snow likely, possibly mixed with freezing rain. Low around 30. East wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Little or no ice accumulation expected. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible. 
Tuesday
Snow likely, possibly mixed with rain and freezing rain before 10am, then a chance of rain and snow. Cloudy, with a high near 36. Light north wind increasing to 5 to 10 mph in the morning. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Little or no ice accumulation expected. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. 
Tuesday Night
Mostly cloudy, then gradually becoming clear, with a low around 12. North wind
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2 minutes ago, Wtkidz said:

Light snow started  around. 4;30 think I was very dry . 
 

about 1/2 “ but roads have been pre treated and today is a federal holiday so traffic should be lighter for my son who drives what I used to do a 130 mile round trip for work. 
 

25 and light snow. 

What type of pre-treat? The stuff they use here somewhat needs traffic driven over it. 

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2 minutes ago, Undertakerson2.0 said:

What type of pre-treat? The stuff they use here somewhat needs traffic driven over it. 

It is some type of  brine that is rumored to be made similar to Vodka but I really don’t know..  no people do not follow the trucks with glasses. 

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