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Many EPS members bring gusts to 40-50mph to my area, but not a lot of rain.

Long range NAM really hangs up the front in the northeast, and creates a bit of a PRE, and extrapolated out, would likely bring a healthy dose of rain to parts of New England.

You can see how the ECMWF and GFS push the moisture out, but still impact the region.

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BTW, hurricanes and tropical storms at night are terrifying, especially when the power is out, it's pitch black, and the only light is from transformers popping and you hear trees constantly cracking.  

I was fully expecting to have to update, but I guess not.  As previously mentioned, some dry air got in and has to be resolved. 

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Hurricane models now have landfall in their range, or at least close to it.  6z and 12z versions.  While I feel good about tossing COTI, the HFBI is the HAFS-B which did the best for Idalia, so that's likely in play. Slight shift west in the consensus. 

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Latest vortex summaries probably don't change NHC opinion much.  

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Its firing up some pretty cold cloud tops in the northern semicircle now.

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edit:  NHC didn't change anything other than lower pressure to 948.  They did mention concentric eyewalls, which recon confirmed. 

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Global models certainly showing a minor Sandy-like hook to the west as Lee approaches the northeast. 12z GFS doesn't make US landfall in Maine, but awfully close...brushing the coast before drifting into the Bay of Fundy. Canadian doesn't quite turn as hard. Interested to see what Euro shows. Many moons and model cycles to go though before he makes his final approach.

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2 minutes ago, Uscg Ast said:

The storm looks the best it has in quite some time 

It's hard to tell on the sat but it looks like the outer ring has dissipated and the focus is on the newly formed eyewall. 

Then again, there might be two wind maxima - have to wait to see what recon reports. The plane hasn't made it to the inner eye yet. 

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7 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

Then again, there might be two wind maxima

Well, there's technically one maxima...

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But instead of dropping off, it dip and increases again before dropping off.  So it does look like there's still two eyewalls.  Surprised the outer one was the stronger one. 

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47 minutes ago, TLChip said:

Lees trying, pinhole possibly forming? Looks like he finally got that dry air out. 

 

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The outflow is really beginning to blossom once again. Look at the tops forming over Puerto Rico and the Islands to the East as well over the Carribean. We'll see...

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Vortex message 949mb

Outer eye 68NM wide and closed

Inner eye 22NM wide and open in the SE

120mph max flight wind.

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Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 11th day of the month at 18:32Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF99-5309
Storm Name: Lee
Storm Number & Year: 13 in 2023 (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 17
Observation Number: 06

A. Time of Center Fix: 11th day of the month at 18:01:30Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 23.50N 63.93W
B. Center Fix Location: 378 statute miles (609 km) to the NNE (21°) from San Juan, Puerto Rico (U.S.).
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,662m (8,734ft) at 700mb
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 949mb (28.03 inHg)
E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 175° at 9kts (From the S at 10mph)
F. Eye Character: Open in the southeast
G. Eye Shape: Concentric (has an inner and outer eye)
G. Inner Eye Diameter: 22 nautical miles (25 statute miles)
G. Outer Eye Diameter: 68 nautical miles (78 statute miles)
H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 87kts (100.1mph)
I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 35 nautical miles (40 statute miles) to the NNW (330°) of center fix at 17:50:00Z
J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 63° at 104kts (From the ENE at 119.7mph)
K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 38 nautical miles (44 statute miles) to the NNW (329°) of center fix at 17:49:00Z
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 81kts (93.2mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 33 nautical miles (38 statute miles) to the SE (137°) of center fix at 18:11:00Z
N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 231° at 96kts (From the SW at 110.5mph)
O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 37 nautical miles (43 statute miles) to the SE (136°) of center fix at 18:12:00Z
P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,052m (10,013ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,056m (10,026ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp & Sea Surface Temp: Not Available
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
S. Fix Levels (surface & flight level centers within 5nm of each other): Surface and 700mb
T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
T. Meteorological Accuracy: 2 nautical miles

Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
 

Maximum Flight Level Wind: 104kts (~ 119.7mph) which was observed 38 nautical miles (44 statute miles) to the NNW (329°) from the flight level center at 17:49:00Z


Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...

 

 

OUTER EYEWALL CLOSED

 

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Mission 17 hasn't found impressive max winds so far.  There could be equipment problems as it's not reporting surface pressure.  Highest flight level 105kts, highest sfmr 84kts.  The expanse of flight level winds over hurricane strength is impressive, basically all the oranges.  85kts for a 949 pressure is light. Top wind on the sonde to the NE of the center was only 110mph. SE quadrant a respectable 135mph. 

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Latest vortex kept it at 949. Still double eyewall, inner one open in south. Outer closed per note. 32 and 64nm wide. Dropsonde in the eye didn't report wind.  Max flight level wind 123mph.  Lightning in the NE quad.

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Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 11th day of the month at 20:12Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF99-5309
Storm Name: Lee
Storm Number & Year: 13 in 2023 (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 17
Observation Number: 13

A. Time of Center Fix: 11th day of the month at 19:42:40Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 23.61N 64.03W
B. Center Fix Location: 383 statute miles (617 km) to the NNE (20°) from San Juan, Puerto Rico (U.S.).
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 2,657m (8,717ft) at 700mb
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 949mb (28.03 inHg)
E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center (Undecoded): NA
F. Eye Character: Open in the south
G. Eye Shape: Concentric (has an inner and outer eye)
G. Inner Eye Diameter: 32 nautical miles (37 statute miles)
G. Outer Eye Diameter: 64 nautical miles (74 statute miles)
H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 84kts (96.7mph)
I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 32 nautical miles (37 statute miles) to the NE (49°) of center fix at 19:32:30Z
J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 146° at 107kts (From between the SE and SSE at 123.1mph)
K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 33 nautical miles (38 statute miles) to the NE (49°) of center fix at 19:32:00Z
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 78kts (89.8mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 27 nautical miles (31 statute miles) to the SW (228°) of center fix at 19:50:30Z
N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 316° at 97kts (From the NW at 111.6mph)
O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 30 nautical miles (35 statute miles) to the SW (228°) of center fix at 19:51:30Z
P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 8°C (46°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,051m (10,010ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 16°C (61°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,049m (10,003ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 16°C (61°F)
R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
S. Fix Level: 700mb
T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
T. Meteorological Accuracy: 3 nautical miles

Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
 

Maximum Flight Level Wind: 107kts (~ 123.1mph) which was observed 33 nautical miles (38 statute miles) to the NE (49°) from the flight level center at 19:32:00Z


Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...

 

 

OUTER EYEWALL CLOSED, LTG INNER EYEWALL NE QUAD
CENTER DRP NO SFC WND LST WND 014 METERS 190 DEGREES AT 6 KTS.

 

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