Chinook Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 There are many storms trying to develop into supercells, possible tornado Caledonia OH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Storms firing up in Indiana - will be coming into a favorable environment. Mid 80s temp, high 60s humidity, sun out here in Central Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 There is a large tornado watch that covers a lot of Ohio and Pennsylvania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Hiramite Posted August 12, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) That’s a lot of lighting. (NE OH) Edited August 12, 2023 by Hiramite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Hmm hoping we get some rain down here. Didn't except a tornado watch so close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 possible tornadoes/confirmed tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Got a pretty significant-looking supercell in OH, velocity has looked better organized from the last few scans. Looks like a very populated region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) The other supercell in OH looks even better on velocity and maybe equally as populated, not ideal. This storm is sharing space with other storms however which could potentially help, although it looks semi-discrete enough. Edited August 12, 2023 by Neoncyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Really hoping I can get a couple hours of clear skies tonight for the Perseids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, Neoncyclone said: Really hoping I can get a couple hours of clear skies tonight for the Perseids Same. Got a brief shower here but its clearing up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted August 12, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted August 12, 2023 Way too close for comfort for Athens/Ohio University Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted August 12, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Way too close for comfort for Athens/Ohio University oof. My roommates and I looked at an apartment near here. Edited August 12, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) New tornado warning east of the Athens and it's confirmed. Quote BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED Tornado Warning National Weather Service Charleston WV 758 PM EDT Sat Aug 12 2023 The National Weather Service in Charleston West Virginia has issued a * Tornado Warning for... Southwestern Washington County in southeastern Ohio... East central Athens County in southeastern Ohio... * Until 815 PM EDT. * At 758 PM EDT, a tornado producing storm was located 8 miles north of Coolville, moving east at 30 mph. HAZARD...Damaging tornado. SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado. IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed. Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree damage is likely. * This tornadic thunderstorm will remain over mainly rural areas of southwestern Washington and east central Athens Counties. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... To repeat, a tornado is on the ground. TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a basement or an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris. && LAT...LON 3928 8189 3933 8190 3939 8171 3934 8167 3927 8170 TIME...MOT...LOC 2358Z 260DEG 28KT 3933 8182 TORNADO...OBSERVED MAX HAIL SIZE...0.00 IN Edited August 13, 2023 by snowlover2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Phew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Things are really ramping up... Likely large tornado doing considerable damage south of Washington, PA. Edited August 13, 2023 by Neoncyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) It has been a day of quite a few supercells and confirmed tornadoes. Definitely some areas of damage in OH, PA, NY and other areas. The jet stream just seems to keep going these days, when normally the jet stream is quite weak and severe storms are random. Edited August 13, 2023 by Chinook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted August 13, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted August 13, 2023 SE OH did some things today 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 ILN has a very nice write up in the AFD concerning late tonight/tomorrow's heavy rain and severe weather threat. Quote .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 PM MONDAY/... The sensible weather locally will change rather dramatically from the near to short term period as a deepening closed low with a positively-tilted trof axis becomes more neutrally tilted as it pivots from the mid MS Rvr Vly into the OH Vly by late Monday. To put it mildly, this is a rather atypical setup/evolution for the region for mid August, with a pronounced deep/strong system migrating this far S during the late summer. This system, which has been relatively-well advertised for days, will bring with it anomalously strong deep-layer wind fields and strong forcing, which will overspread the OH Vly late tonight into the day on Monday. With the approach of the midlevel low, increasing midlevel flow will overspread the region from the W late tonight, with a unseasonably robust LLJ nosing to the ENE from the mid MS Rvr Vly into the srn OH Vly by Monday morning. H8/H9 wind fields will be 30-40 kts at ILN by mid morning, which will be near the top-end of recorded H8/H9 flow for mid August, per sounding climatology. This will coincide with 95th+ percentile PWATs, too. Resulting midlevel mass and moisture convergence will be impressive, especially by mid August standards. This will promote the development of one or more expansive clusters of SHRA/TSRA, which will approach/move into the Tri-State/EC IN during the latter half of the overnight tonight. This activity, while it will be progressive in nature (owing to the strengthening steering-layer flow), will coincide with tremendous moisture flux into the region as well, with PWATs nearing or exceeding 2" locally (~200% seasonal norms). So while the activity late tonight into Monday morning will be progressive, rain rates will be efficient due to the strong/broad forcing amidst a saturating profile. And as such, the AM activity will pose mainly a heavy rain/localized flooding threat, especially should convective rates be maintained for any extended period of time over one area. While this will possible just about anywhere, it will be /most/ favored near/S of I-70 through mid morning, where many areas could see a very quick inch + of rain. Beyond mid-morning, convective evolution naturally becomes murkier. Following the early day "batch" of SHRA/TSRA, focus will shift back to the W of the immediate local area to ern/NE IL where the center of a broad area of low pressure will be positioned. Although the LL and midlevel wind fields are impressive, the broad nature of the sfc low itself may create somewhat weaker sfc winds than would otherwise be expected in this type of setup. The evolution and shape of the sfc pressure pattern will be incredibly important as we progress into the afternoon/evening as any more focused sfc low center would act to not only enhance sfc flow on the mesoscale, but could act to back sfc flow to more southerly (opposed to SW) immediately ahead of the low itself. This will come into play in terms of expected threats as convection redevelops back to the W in cntrl IN past mid afternoon in a strongly-forced environment. What remains relatively lacking in all of this are two separate but equally-important things. 1) With the rather diffuse sfc pressure pattern in place, with one or more (convectively- generated) low centers, the sfc flow may become predominantly SW even ahead of the front, meaning that, despite the strong forcing, LL convergence will be /somewhat/ weaker. This may also contribute to less directional shear in the lowest 1km. And 2) uncertainties exist in just how much we are able to destabilize again in the wake of morning convection. We have seen this evolution play out time and time again where the instby is not able to recover quite enough to materialize a widespread severe threat after morning activity. Despite the expected widespread cloud cover (courtesy of the tremendously- saturated profile), what differs about this setup is that influx of better instby will be aided by the aforementioned strong LL/ML flow fields. This should allow for solid theta-e advection /back/ into the ILN FA from the SW during early/mid afternoon, essentially replenishing some of the instby that was scoured out by AM activity... even without the aid of sunshine or a substantial increase in sfc temps. So with all of this said, airmass destabilization should occur in the wake of AM convection amidst large-scale ascent and unseasonably strong vertical shear (which will support storm organization). With the LL bulk shear vector at about 260 degrees at ~30kts, any N-S oriented segment (which would be the favored orientation given the N-S orientation of the sfc front/lifting mechanism) would bring with it a strong/damaging wind threat. This activity could be fairly widespread in nature, although the best potential for strong/damaging winds will be near/S of I-71 where the best LL thermodynamic field will become established. One of more linear clusters should develop by 21z near the OH/IN state line before racing to the E through the evening hours, eventually exiting the local area by 03z. Do feel that the SLGHT risk from SPC is well-warranted and will continue mention in HWO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I wonder if tonight will be another underperforming Missouri enhanced risk, as two Missouri enhanced risks have busted, although severe reports have been numerous in other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Hmm 2% tor area extended back to Norman for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 There was literally 2-inch hail in Maine yesterday 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 ILN has an insanely long near term disco in the AFD. Quote .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... A few SHRA are already beginning to sprout across the far srn stretches of the ILN FA as of this writing, with this activity gradually expanding in coverage to the NE through daybreak before the main batch of SHRA/TSRA arrives through the morning into early afternoon. From a general pattern perspective, the evolution of the system through the OH Vly and Great Lakes region over the next 24 hours is going to be a rather atypical setup/evolution for the region for mid August, with a pronounced deep/strong system migrating E through Tuesday morning. With this, expect that anomalously strong deep-layer wind fields and strong forcing will overspread the OH Vly through the day today. With the approach of the midlevel low, increasing midlevel flow will overspread the region from the W, with a unseasonably robust LLJ nosing to the ENE from the mid MS Rvr Vly into the srn OH Vly by mid morning. H8/H9 wind fields will be 25-35 kts at ILN by late morning, which will be near the top-end of recorded H8/H9 flow for mid August, per sounding climatology. This will coincide with 95th+ percentile PWATs, too. Resulting midlevel mass and moisture convergence will be impressive, especially by mid August standards. And with this strong forcing and ample moisture, the convective cluster currently residing in far SE MO into srn IL will survive, at least in some capacity, into the ILN FA through the course of the morning. These expanding clusters of SHRA/TSRA will move into the Tri-State/EC IN by mid morning before tracking further to the NE through much of the remainder of the local area by noontime. This activity, while it will be progressive in nature (owing to the strengthening steering- layer flow), will coincide with tremendous moisture flux into the region as well, with PWATs nearing or exceeding 2" locally (~200% seasonal norms). So while the activity will be progressive, rain rates will be quite efficient due to the strong/broad forcing amidst a saturating profile. And as such, the AM/early PM activity will pose mainly a heavy rain/localized flooding threat, especially should convective rates be maintained for any extended period of time over one area. While this will possible just about anywhere, it will be /most/ favored near/S of I-70 through late morning, where many areas could see a very quick inch + of rain. Beyond early afternoon, convective evolution still remains murky. Following the early day "batch" of SHRA/TSRA, focus will shift back to the W (both near the Tri-State and to the W of the immediate area in ern/NE IL where the center of a broad area of low pressure will be positioned). Although the LL and midlevel wind fields are impressive, the broad nature of the sfc low itself may create somewhat weaker sfc winds than would otherwise be expected in this type of setup. The evolution and shape of the sfc pressure pattern will be incredibly important as we progress into the late afternoon/evening as any more focused sfc low center would act to not only enhance sfc flow on the mesoscale, but could act to back sfc flow to more southerly (opposed to SW) immediately ahead of the low itself. This could yield a /very brief/ conditional tornado threat, particularly in EC IN and WC OH by this evening should things evolve in such a manner. Elsewhere, this will come into play in terms of expected threats as convection redevelops back to the W in the Tri-State past mid afternoon in a strongly-forced environment. What remains relatively lacking in all of this are two separate but equally- important things. 1) With the rather diffuse sfc pressure pattern in place, with one or more (convectively- generated) low centers, the sfc flow may become quite veered (predominantly SW) even ahead of the front, meaning that, despite the strong forcing, LL directional convergence will be /somewhat/ weaker. This may also contribute to less directional shear in the lowest 1km. And 2) perhaps more importantly, uncertainties exist in just how much we are able to destabilize again in the wake of early day convection. Today has all the tell-tale signs of being a very "grungy" day with struggling destabilization efforts in the wake of widespread early-day activity. Moreover, given the strong forcing and ample deep- layer moisture, it won`t take much to reinitiate SCT to numerous weaker updrafts/cells immediately in the wake of the larger complex, even before the arrival of the main feature in the early evening. We have seen this evolution play out time and time again where the instby is not able to recover quite enough to materialize a widespread severe threat after morning activity. And there are some indications that we may repeat this scenario yet again today (although for a slightly different reason), especially if activity keeps regenerating nonstop, further hindering destabilization efforts prior to the prefrontal trof arrival this evening. So with the expected widespread cloud cover (courtesy of the tremendously-saturated profile), the influx of better instby aided by the aforementioned strong LL/ML flow fields still remains somewhat in question. The best theta-e advection /back/ into the ILN FA from the SW should occur late afternoon into early evening, helping replenish /some/ of the instby that was scoured out by earlier activity, particularly in SE IN and near/S of the OH Rvr. This better instby potential in these areas is collocated with the SLGHT risk on the SWODY1, which is well-warranted. So with all of this said, airmass destabilization remains the primary limiting factor today, meaning that there are some uncertainties regarding whether more than an isolated strong/damaging wind risk can develop. At this juncture, the constant regeneration of convection in a widespread but scattered fashion may inhibit anything more than just a very isolated strong/severe storm. However, convection by late afternoon/early evening amidst large-scale ascent and unseasonably strong vertical shear will support storm organization. With the LL bulk shear vector at about 260 degrees at ~30kts, any N-S oriented segment (which would be the favored orientation given the N-S orientation of the sfc trof/lifting mechanism) would bring with it a slightly better strong/damaging wind threat. This activity could be fairly widespread in nature, although the best potential for strong/damaging winds will be near/S of I-71 where the best LL thermodynamic field will become established. A conditional brief tornado threat is possible just about anywhere, but is /most/ likely to evolve in either 1) early evening in EC IN or WC OH or the Miami Valley /if/ sufficient destabilization can occur in these areas (which remains in doubt), or 2) along the NE-advancing theta-e/instby gradient during the middle of the afternoon (~18z-21z), perhaps near an axis from Boone Co, KY to Ross Co, OH where LL helicity may be slightly/briefly enhanced with sfc winds a bit more backed along the pivoting instby gradient. Regardless, several linear clusters should develop past 21z near the OH/IN state line before racing to the E through the evening hours, eventually exiting the local area beyond 03z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Pouring buckets here right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 23 hours ago, ElectricStorm said: Hmm 2% tor area extended back to Norman for tonight It looks like the enhanced outlook should have been back toward OKC and Tulsa and there were about 10 reports in Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassaywx1223 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:53 PM, Neoncyclone said: Got a pretty significant-looking supercell in OH, velocity has looked better organized from the last few scans. Looks like a very populated region. Never got to upload these to here it was very organized had a funnel and all I was chasing it as I live in struthers so it was 5 Miles south of my home. It was one step away from producing most legit supercell we’ve had around here in 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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