Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 10, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) AMA wrote an essay for the afternoon mesoscale update. Doesn't sound like the overnight round is too impressive. Fine with me, need to catch up on my sleep. .MESOSCALE UPDATE FOR WIND, HAIL, AND A LOW TORNADO THREAT FOR THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT... Issued at 241 PM CDT Wed May 10 2023 * Synoptic Overview: The latest 10/18z RAP H500 analysis shows a negatively tilted trough located over the Desert Southwest and is continuing to move east/northeast early this afternoon. Out ahead of this feature, southerly winds continue to advect theta-e at H700 across mainly an axis along west TX and east NM. This can be seen in the mid level water vapor satellite band and with some cumulus clouds developing across northeastern NM. Moisture return would be greater across the area if low pressure was not located to our southeast along with ongoing convection in east and southeast TX. A subtle weak shortwave out ahead of the main low pressure system is moving across north central NM early this afternoon. Current expectation is that this weak disturbance will aid in convective initiation across far northeastern NM, as already seen by a thunderstorm developing across the higher terrain in NM. The main event so to speak, is expected to be during the late evening into the overnight hours as the main upper level wave approaches the Panhandles and provides stronger PVA. This may generate a secondary round of thunderstorms, some of which could be severe, during the overnight hours and could continue into early Thursday morning. * Mesoscale: Latest 18z surface analysis shows dew points are continuing to slowly decrease across the Southern High Plains as daytime mixing is bringing down drier air from aloft to the surface. A surface dry line continues to sharpen across eastern NM and is expected to be the surface lifting mechanism to get convection started this afternoon. This is already apparent as of 1845z, with a shower/storm beginning to develop south of Raton, NM. The 10/18z RAP mesoanalysis shows that there may be a small area along the dry line that is uncapped at this time, with MLCAPE around 1000 J/kg. This is located in the vicinity of where the initial storm is beginning to develop. CIN will continue to decrease through the daytime hours, but surface moisture will also decrease which will lead to lower CAPE values. Given the weak upper level flow aloft, any storms that form during the afternoon into the early evening hours are not expected to be fast moving. With that being said, effective shear will be quite weak and may inhibit some of the severe weather threat. As thunderstorms move into the western Panhandles later this afternoon, the more aggressive models suggest that 1000-1500 J/kg of MLCAPE may remain over the area along with slowly increasing effective shear as southerly H850 winds increase to near 30 kts. The better chance of storms being surface based looks to be in the northwest based on the more aggressive soundings from models that have a higher moisture bias. This initial round of storms, which looks to become linear based on CAMs and the relatively marginal shear, may continue across the west and potentially the central Panhandles til midnight. A secondary line of linear storms may develop over portions of west TX as the main upper level wave comes across during the overnight hours. The first round of convection may hinder how far north this secondary line is able to develop as portions of the Panhandles could be worked over and may limit further thunderstorm development. In any case, low level moisture will be on the increase and surface dew points may approach the mid to upper 50s, with low 60s further east. As moisture increases throughout the column, long skinny CAPE profiles look possible with CAPE values around 1000 J/kg. Cannot rule out some of these storms potentially becoming surface based, which would lead to a low end tornado threat given the long low level forecast hodographs. A QLCS may develop as 0-3km shear values are near 30 kts along and behind where the line is forecast to develop. Several CAMs are depicting that this scenario is possible and a brief tornado spin-up looks plausible during the overnight hours. Will need to continue to monitor the potential for this threat, especially since it is during the overnight period. * Threats: The main threats with any severe thunderstorms this afternoon through this evening will be large hail (up to ping pong ball) and damaging wind gusts (up to 65 mph). Given the lack of moisture this afternoon, especially across the west, CAPE values combined with weak shear are not overly supportive of a very large hail threat. Even though moisture and shear will increase through the overnight hours, as mentioned above, long skinny CAPE profiles are possible and are not the most supportive of very large hail. Storms are expected to become mainly elevated after sunset tonight as we lose daytime heating and capping in the low levels becomes prevalent. This will decrease the damaging wind threat, but if a QLCS is able to form, some gusty winds could mix down to the surface. The low end tornado threat is highly conditional and will depend upon the low to mid levels cooling as the upper level wave approaches the Panhandles. Cannot rule out a quick spin-up or two during the overnight hours. Will need to carefully monitor the trends through the overnight hours. * Timing & Location: Two rounds of thunderstorms are expected over the next 12 to 18 hours. The first round is forecast to move in across the western Panhandles around 5 to 7 PM Central. A line of storms may move across portions of the western Panhandles through early evening. A secondary round of thunderstorms may develop across portions of west TX during the overnight hours (around 11 PM through 1 AM) and is expected to trek east. The highest chance at seeing these storms overnight would be across the central and/or southern TX Panhandle. These storms are expected to be east of the area near sunrise on Thursday. Edited May 10, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Confirmed tornado in CO. Quote Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Denver CO 555 PM MDT Wed May 10 2023 COC087-121-110015- /O.CON.KBOU.TO.W.0013.000000T0000Z-230511T0015Z/ Morgan CO-Washington CO- 555 PM MDT Wed May 10 2023 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 615 PM MDT FOR SOUTHEASTERN MORGAN AND NORTHWESTERN WASHINGTON COUNTIES... At 555 PM MDT, a confirmed tornado was located 6 miles east of Gary, or 14 miles southwest of Akron, moving north at 30 mph. HAZARD...Damaging tornado and half dollar size hail. SOURCE...Weather spotters confirmed tornado. IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed. Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree damage is likely. Locations impacted include... Midway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Quote PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DENVER CO 631 PM MDT WED MAY 10 2023 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0610 PM HAIL 7 WSW AKRON 40.13N 103.34W 05/10/2023 M3.00 INCH WASHINGTON CO TRAINED SPOTTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 strong rotation at Merino, Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 This might be the smallest watch I've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist Ingyball Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 Getting pretty concerned about the setup tomorrow. Pretty classic May significant setup for us here. Nice compact low going negatively tilted at the right time, (mini) upper jet intersects the warm sector at nearly 90 degrees. Mid-level cooling lowers cap concerns. It seems like all systems go tomorrow. If there's a failure mode it'd be too much convection (kind of like what's going on in western Kansas today, or that Texas low slows down and causes subsidence at the wrong time. CIPS has been very inconsistent with one to two big outbreak showing up each run then disappearing. SARS Analogs are much more impressive though with some big outbreaks like the Harper County Kansas F4 in 2004 have shown up on both NAM and HRRR sounding. Here are some of the other outbreaks I found that had high impacts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_outbreak_sequence_of_June_10–16,_1970#:~:text=The tornado outbreak sequence of,down during the outbreak sequence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_outbreak_of_November_23–24,_2001 https://www.weather.gov/iln/20000920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Gorilla Hail! Quote PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DENVER CO 706 PM MDT WED MAY 10 2023 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0613 PM HAIL 6 ENE GARY 40.10N 103.47W 05/10/2023 M4.00 INCH MORGAN CO NWS EMPLOYEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 For tomorrow: the 00z HRRR predicts the cap will break near Oklahoma City, with relatively isolated cells. I think there will be an increasing tornado chance along with increasing shear, as the late afternooon-evening SRH gets quite a bit higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Bit of a hint of a mid-level meso with this cell. Nocturnal LLJ is kicking in. Thankfully low-level moisture is weak right now so the tornado threat stays low. Will be interesting to see how long it persists and if it can make it into the better moisture and remain surface-based. That's a lot of if's though and I don't think it'll happen Edited May 11, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 update: The FV3 does not really break the cap around Oklahoma City. but the NAM 3km does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 That southern cell is developing quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 I didn't post much because I was recording this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) New development in east NM Shear is looking pretty good. Instability not so much but moving into greater values. Edited May 11, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 Solid jet streak pushing in to western Texas, probably will be good to keep storms going through sunrise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 Ahh... thunder and lightning. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Day 1 outlook is out, looks pretty similar the the previous Day 2. Need to watch the convection in TX, if it stays strong enough and makes it further east it could possibly limit the severe threat later on. I personally don't really think that will be much of an issue though. Storm coverage will probably be too limited for an upgrade to moderate but if models uptrend in storm coverage, and depending on obs tomorrow morning/early afternoon, I wouldn't really be surprised if a small moderate risk area is added later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Looks like the low threat for a tornado panned out. Nothing confirmed, nor do I expect one to be, but it's trying. Low-level moisture is improving and low-level shear is pretty decent. Edited May 11, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Cool satellite loop. Clearly 3 rounds of initiation. First round produced damaging winds, second round produced hail, third round tried to produce a tornado. Edited May 11, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 Might have another mesovortex developing just SW of here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 Nice thunderstorm day it’s been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 11, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted May 11, 2023 Got some rotation by the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Morning storms crossing into Oklahoma Another round of severe storms is possible tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Enhanced risk is now much bigger in Oklahoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 The environment forecast to be in place over Central Oklahoma is definitely concerning.. The only potential saving grace i've seen is that models are a bit messy. Really hoping for no discrete storms this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Rotating bean in Louisiana this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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