StormfanaticInd Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) I am still very impressed/worried about Tuesday and Wednesday Edited April 2, 2023 by StormfanaticInd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: I am still very impressed/worried about Tuesday and Wednesday Had some storms that tried to develop over me, but they collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Could be some marginal severe on monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 2, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Feels incredible outside. 81 degrees with 10 degree dew point. Under a high wind watch for Tuesday... 35-45 mph sustained winds, gusting up to 65. I knew this area is windy but geez. Assuming a massive change doesn't happen, this will be the 7th high wind warning of 2023. Averaging roughly 1 every 2 weeks. Edited April 2, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StormfanaticInd Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Feels like a May setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Sentinel Posted April 2, 2023 Admin Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Feels like a May setup This is a nasty set up... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Tornado Watch up for Northern Texas and Southern Oklahoma, this does NOT include my location! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 KIND Long Term...(Monday night through Sunday) Issued at 304 PM EDT Sun Apr 2 2023 ...CONTINUING TO MONITOR POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER REGIONAL SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY... ***BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT*** * Citizens of central Indiana should be weather aware and prepared Tuesday into Wednesday this week. * Potential remains for another significant severe weather event for central Indiana Tuesday into Wednesday, primarily somewhere in the Tuesday night into midday/early afternoon Wednesday window. Significant uncertainties remain and confidence in details is modest at best. * Guidance trends in the last 24 hours have shifted the synoptic pattern slightly westward and thus cold frontal passage later in time, potentially late Tuesday night to as late as early Wednesday afternoon. This trend may result in less favorable timing for severe storms evolving from Tuesday`s event, particularly surfaced- based convection that would include a tornado and damaging wind threat, but could also result in a severe threat Wednesday with all hazards on the table, depending upon how late in the day the front passes. * Frontal passage earlier in the Tuesday night/Wednesday time frame would most likely have a higher risk of a broad QLCS wind/tornado threat, while a later passage could result in a tendency toward more discrete storm modes on Wednesday with all hazards possible, albeit with a slightly less potent, but still favorable environment for severe storms as the cyclone occludes and begins to weaken. Evolution of the mesoscale environment Tuesday into Wednesday will drive the resultant modes and threats, and remains highly uncertain. ***MORE ON OVERALL LONG TERM FORECAST DETAILS*** Primary focus for the long term will be on Tuesday into Wednesday, April 4th-5th. Guidance remains broadly consistent in developing an extremely strong low pressure system to the lee of the Rockies as a potent upper level trough digs into the western CONUS early in the week. This low very quickly wraps up and pivots rapidly northeast from the central Plains into the upper Midwest/far western Great Lakes Tuesday into Wednesday. Severe outbreak potential for somewhere in the Missouri/Mississippi Valleys and potentially eastward into the Ohio and Tennessee Valleys remains a major threat, with outcomes dependent upon evolution of the mesoscale environment that can still only primarily be inferred. The surface cyclone should feature a large open warm sector, with ample instability owing to strong warm advection and poleward moisture transport, and anomalously strong flow throughout the depth of the troposphere evolving to our west during the day on Tuesday and translating eastward as the cold front does so late Tuesday into Wednesday. Extremely strong low level and deep layer shear is expected, with the threat for supercell storm modes to our west initially, potentially growing upscale into a potent QLCS, although more discrete storm modes still cannot be ruled out. How far eastward this QLCS might persist before rapidly weakening is highly dependent upon timing and position of the cyclone/cold front and is a significant source of uncertainty at this time. Forecast profiles in the area depict a significant capping inversion during the day into the evening, which would allow instability to build and inhibit convection during the day in the open warm sector, but this is a also source of uncertainty and will significantly impact evolution and magnitude of the severe threat. Euro Extreme Forecast Index (EFI) and Shift of Tails (SoT) continues to suggest anomalously high instability regionally Tuesday into Tuesday night, although these values are marginally lower and also shifted west/northwestward in the latest data. A primary, major source of uncertainty is the longitudinal position of the front and preceding warm sector Tuesday into Wednesday and timing of its passage. Overall guidance trends in the last 24 hours have been to the west, which is commonly seen with extremely deep and rapidly developing cyclones. CIPS severe analogs depict the highest severe risk even further west over southern Iowa/western Missouri/northeast Oklahoma, but this guidance was also the furthest west for Friday`s event. Experimental machine learning severe weather guidance from CSU is pegged to its maximum level in nearly an identical area to the starting point of Friday`s outbreak, but just slightly westward, from southeast Iowa and western Illinois into northwest Arkansas, with high probabilities extending again into central Indiana and surrounding vicinity - especially the western half of the area. A potential scenario which would trend toward a wider scale damaging wind threat and away from significant tornado threat for central Indiana is that the forcing/shear vectors may be slightly more boundary parallel on Tuesday than last night`s event, but subtle changes to this or any of a number of other factors will have a significant impact upon the evolution of the environment and resultant threats. Overall, this pattern has a broad range of possible outcomes - a high ceiling for widespread severe storms, but also a non-negligible underperformance potential depending upon timing and evolution of the environment in the warm sector. In addition to the severe weather threat, another strong synoptic wind event will accompany this cyclone, with 925 mb flow likely around 45-50KT and an 825 mb low level jet as high as 60-65KT, which again looks quite familiar. Gusts Tuesday night into Wednesday appear likely to be in the 45-50 MPH range with a few higher gusts likely, and yet another wind headline may be necessary for that time frame. Euro EFI/SoT again remain strongly suggestive of a climatologically anomalous wind event Tuesday night into Wednesda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: Tornado Watch up for Northern Texas and Southern Oklahoma, this does NOT include my location! Should be some big hail and of course tornado. Some significant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 2, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted April 2, 2023 Warm front is producing several non-tornadic supercells. Main event in the next several hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Severe thunderstorm warning here. Starting to hear some thunder now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Got some tiny hail here as the main core passed just to my south. Marginal risk coming in clutch up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 hour ago, StormfanaticInd said: KIND Long Term...(Monday night through Sunday) Issued at 304 PM EDT Sun Apr 2 2023 ...CONTINUING TO MONITOR POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER REGIONAL SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY... ***BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT*** * Citizens of central Indiana should be weather aware and prepared Tuesday into Wednesday this week. * Potential remains for another significant severe weather event for central Indiana Tuesday into Wednesday, primarily somewhere in the Tuesday night into midday/early afternoon Wednesday window. Significant uncertainties remain and confidence in details is modest at best. * Guidance trends in the last 24 hours have shifted the synoptic pattern slightly westward and thus cold frontal passage later in time, potentially late Tuesday night to as late as early Wednesday afternoon. This trend may result in less favorable timing for severe storms evolving from Tuesday`s event, particularly surfaced- based convection that would include a tornado and damaging wind threat, but could also result in a severe threat Wednesday with all hazards on the table, depending upon how late in the day the front passes. * Frontal passage earlier in the Tuesday night/Wednesday time frame would most likely have a higher risk of a broad QLCS wind/tornado threat, while a later passage could result in a tendency toward more discrete storm modes on Wednesday with all hazards possible, albeit with a slightly less potent, but still favorable environment for severe storms as the cyclone occludes and begins to weaken. Evolution of the mesoscale environment Tuesday into Wednesday will drive the resultant modes and threats, and remains highly uncertain. ***MORE ON OVERALL LONG TERM FORECAST DETAILS*** Primary focus for the long term will be on Tuesday into Wednesday, April 4th-5th. Guidance remains broadly consistent in developing an extremely strong low pressure system to the lee of the Rockies as a potent upper level trough digs into the western CONUS early in the week. This low very quickly wraps up and pivots rapidly northeast from the central Plains into the upper Midwest/far western Great Lakes Tuesday into Wednesday. Severe outbreak potential for somewhere in the Missouri/Mississippi Valleys and potentially eastward into the Ohio and Tennessee Valleys remains a major threat, with outcomes dependent upon evolution of the mesoscale environment that can still only primarily be inferred. The surface cyclone should feature a large open warm sector, with ample instability owing to strong warm advection and poleward moisture transport, and anomalously strong flow throughout the depth of the troposphere evolving to our west during the day on Tuesday and translating eastward as the cold front does so late Tuesday into Wednesday. Extremely strong low level and deep layer shear is expected, with the threat for supercell storm modes to our west initially, potentially growing upscale into a potent QLCS, although more discrete storm modes still cannot be ruled out. How far eastward this QLCS might persist before rapidly weakening is highly dependent upon timing and position of the cyclone/cold front and is a significant source of uncertainty at this time. Forecast profiles in the area depict a significant capping inversion during the day into the evening, which would allow instability to build and inhibit convection during the day in the open warm sector, but this is a also source of uncertainty and will significantly impact evolution and magnitude of the severe threat. Euro Extreme Forecast Index (EFI) and Shift of Tails (SoT) continues to suggest anomalously high instability regionally Tuesday into Tuesday night, although these values are marginally lower and also shifted west/northwestward in the latest data. A primary, major source of uncertainty is the longitudinal position of the front and preceding warm sector Tuesday into Wednesday and timing of its passage. Overall guidance trends in the last 24 hours have been to the west, which is commonly seen with extremely deep and rapidly developing cyclones. CIPS severe analogs depict the highest severe risk even further west over southern Iowa/western Missouri/northeast Oklahoma, but this guidance was also the furthest west for Friday`s event. Experimental machine learning severe weather guidance from CSU is pegged to its maximum level in nearly an identical area to the starting point of Friday`s outbreak, but just slightly westward, from southeast Iowa and western Illinois into northwest Arkansas, with high probabilities extending again into central Indiana and surrounding vicinity - especially the western half of the area. A potential scenario which would trend toward a wider scale damaging wind threat and away from significant tornado threat for central Indiana is that the forcing/shear vectors may be slightly more boundary parallel on Tuesday than last night`s event, but subtle changes to this or any of a number of other factors will have a significant impact upon the evolution of the environment and resultant threats. Overall, this pattern has a broad range of possible outcomes - a high ceiling for widespread severe storms, but also a non-negligible underperformance potential depending upon timing and evolution of the environment in the warm sector. In addition to the severe weather threat, another strong synoptic wind event will accompany this cyclone, with 925 mb flow likely around 45-50KT and an 825 mb low level jet as high as 60-65KT, which again looks quite familiar. Gusts Tuesday night into Wednesday appear likely to be in the 45-50 MPH range with a few higher gusts likely, and yet another wind headline may be necessary for that time frame. Euro EFI/SoT again remain strongly suggestive of a climatologically anomalous wind event Tuesday night into Wednesda Will dig into this more as it approaches and gets into CAM range, but the stuff I glanced at suggested that surface based storms may still be possible even well after midnight/Wednesday morning, albeit in an environment with weaker instability compared to earlier on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 I'm hearing Thunder, Convective Feedback is really going. Tornado Warning near Marlin, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Confirmed tornado near Kosse, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 2, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) Tuesday looks like a long day even this far west of the dryline. Not as long as farther east, but still .LONG TERM ... (Tuesday through next Saturday) Issued at 207 PM CDT Sun Apr 2 2023 Critical fire weather conditions Tuesday with high winds possible. Quiet rest of week. Tuesday will see the upper level low eject into the Northern Plains and place the Panhandles under the jets. Mixing looks to start early Tuesday with the stronger winds. Winds have slightly increased in models, thus have used a 1:1:1 blend of ConsMOS, NBM, and NBM90 to account for the length and spread of possible mixing. Wind gusts may now be as high as 70 mph. NBM gives a 77 percent chance of wind gusts greater than 56 kts (65 mph) for Dalhart, 68 percent chance at Guymon, a 65 percent chance at Borger, and a 64 percent chance at Amarillo. The cold front that is expected to push southward into the FA has slowed down and looks to turn winds northerly starting around midnight or so. Critical fire weather conditions are a slam dunk with fuels being around the 90th percentile. Blowing dust will be very likely as well due to the drought conditions and strong winds. Winds should ease back in the evening hours and especially in the post-frontal air mass. Thursday through the weekend still has divergent solutions between models. The trough that looks to form in the south goes far enough south that this run of the NBM has decreased precip chances again to a small portion of the southeast just on Saturday night. Expect this will likely disappear like the rest of the chances for precip have. Long range models did agree on temps being likely warmer with having the trough dig further south, keeping clouds from being as thick or forming at all. So far though, perhaps only elevated fire weather conditions may form from this change. Edited April 2, 2023 by ClicheVortex2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 The 3 km NAM doesn't go out this far, but here's a NAM forecast sounding from northern IL at 12z Wednesday. There's little CINH and one could argue that storms may be able to be sfc based even at that time of morning, but it's obviously something that will need to be refined as we get closer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 3, 2023 Meteorologist Share Posted April 3, 2023 00z HRRR is uhh... a little bit more aggressive with the dryline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 00z HRRR does pop some discrete cells in IL during Tuesday afternoon. Also has 70 degree dewpoints around the Quad Cities. I'll believe that when I see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 That environment on the 0z HRRR is unreal, if that even comes close to verifying and a storm can break the cap that would be a major problem. This run doesn't fire a ton of storms but reflectivity output at the 48 hour range can be questionable. Really interested to read the SPC outlook discussion in a few hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 🤣🤣 Honestly though I don't know how I feel about Tuesday, there's no questioning the volatile atmosphere that will be in place, mainly questioning forcing as the cold-front is well behind and doesn't move into the area until the evening/overnight. Edited April 3, 2023 by Neoncyclone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 SPC upgrades the northern area to moderate including 15 hatched tornado area. 10 hatched for the southern enhanced risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ElectricStorm said: SPC upgrades the northern area to moderate including 15 hatched tornado area. 10 hatched for the southern enhanced risk This is eerily similar to March 31st... Edited April 3, 2023 by Iceresistance Typo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Wednesday is starting to look a little more interesting around or just east of here. Fropa timing seems to be inching slower. I expect the severe threat to get going fairly early on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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