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Just now, Poco said:

I prolly just broadly defined conv feedback so yea he’s prolly right.  I’m not a Met so most of the time I just post based on what I’ve encountered over my 15 years following these storms.  True meteorologists will always trump any knowledge I have.  The advantage we have in here is that we can take stabs that other measured industry folks can’t.  We don’t suffer much backlash for being wrong on an Internet forum 

It's what makes this place fun.

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1 minute ago, StretchCT said:

Are you saying that the radar isn't matching accumulation (which it doesn't), or are you saying that snow has fallen before the 12z initialization that is captured in prior runs, but not the 12z.

The latter is true.  Example:  This is what has fallen prior to 12z on the 0z run

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Right if you were to show snowfall trends and go back 5 or 6 runs the latest runs that already had digital snow fall.  The latter.  Not that there’s anything wrong with posting trend maps but snowfall trend maps just need to watch the amount that’s “already fallen”

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3 hours ago, MaineJay said:

So folks can pick up what I'm laying down, that's 3mb deeper than the meso analysis shows.

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Models still don't have a clue

11 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

It's what makes this place fun.

And valuable IMHO 

Just now, MaineJay said:

If you look real hard you can find the center.

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Man that is some sheer... 

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10 minutes ago, MaineJay said:

If you look real hard you can find the center.

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The first tropical storm name of the 2023 season will be Arlene.

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4 minutes ago, MaineJay said:

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Not sure how old you gotta be to get the reference...

Old... 

2 minutes ago, TheRex said:

The first tropical storm name of the 2023 season will be Arlene.

A tropical blizzard... Imagine... Hurricane and blizzard warnings simultaneously 

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Honestly I’ve seen storms like this capture just below LI instead of running the surface lp up the coast 

 

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does that happen here?  No clue but if it does it’s a whole different ball game.   This could honestly be why mt Holly seems to be going with history over modeling 

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2 minutes ago, Poco said:

Honestly I’ve seen storms like this capture just below ling is Jane instead of running the surface lp up the coast 

 

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does that happen here?  No clue but if it does it’s a whole different ball game.   This could honestly be why mt Holly seems to be going with history over modeling 

Any thoughts on being on the NW side of this ULL?  Doesn't that area typically overproduce?  This is a really good track for an ULL for most of us. Especially as it deepens.

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On 3/12/2023 at 6:40 AM, MaineJay said:

Snow being reported in SW VA.

@1816 anything in your neighborhood?

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Sorry been busy and off of here a lot lately. We got a dusting. Possibly a skiff. It was light snow to moderate at times but 33 degrees and warm ground means it was mostly just nice to watch falling. 

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4 minutes ago, Poco said:

Honestly I’ve seen storms like this capture just below LI instead of running the surface lp up the coast 

 

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does that happen here?  No clue but if it does it’s a whole different ball game.   This could honestly be why mt Holly seems to be going with history over modeling 

ULL are tRicky too 

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5 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

Any thoughts on being on the NW side of this ULL?  Doesn't that area typically overproduce?

I remember setups like this producing dbl lows too and just one huge mega band that stretched from eastern PA all the way up into New England (forget the exact storm )

miller Bs always my favorite as I can remember storms that we were forecasted for 2-4 and ended with 24   (Feb 10, 2010)

heck I wouldn’t be surprised if clapper somehow got 3-6”

but given how this winter has gone I know it’s Lmost impossible to believe a storm can over perform in a year like we’ve had.  But we do have the most anomalous MJO phase 8 propagations in history

and when one driver is anomalous it means other stuff could be trigger other anomalous stuff to occur 

 

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