Neoncyclone Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Quote Mesoscale Discussion 0242 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0401 AM CST Fri Mar 03 2023 Areas affected...portions of northern MS/AL...western into Middle TN...western KY...far southeast MO...and far southern IL Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely Valid 031001Z - 031230Z Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent SUMMARY...A new tornado watch will likely be needed by 13-14z/7-8 am CST across portions of the Tennessee and Lower Ohio Valleys. Damaging gusts and a few tornadoes will be possible through midday/early afternoon. DISCUSSION...A quasi-stationary boundary is evident in surface analysis extending from west-central TN toward the TN/KY border vicinity north of Nashville. Meanwhile, the warm front, demarcating mid-60s F surface dewpoints from upper 50s to low 60s F dewpoints, is arcing from near Memphis into east-central MS (between Starkville and Tupelo) and central AL. Large-scale ascent ejecting into east TX, as the mid/upper trough becomes more negatively tilted as of 10z, will aid in deepening of the surface low over central AR as it tracks northeast toward the Lower OH Valley through midday. As this occurs, the warm front will lift northward, allowing for destabilization of the airmass downstream from WW 59 across parts of northern MS into western and Middle TN, and eventually northward toward the lower OH River. Ongoing precipitation across parts of western/Middle TN/southeast MO/western KY and vicinity lends to some uncertainty with respect to the northern extent of severe potential through the morning, and possible watch issuance. While a relative minimum in severe activity may exist in the short term, as the warm front surges northward through mid-morning, forecast soundings in addition to CAMs and deterministic guidance suggest organized convection will develop northeast from near the MS River through western KY. Where the more moist and unstable airmass evolves, sufficient low-level instability, in the presence of intense low-level shear (aided by a 50-60 kt 850 mb jet), will support organized linear convection with perhaps embedded or semi-discrete cells. Damaging gusts and a few tornadoes will be possible with this activity through midday/early afternoon. A downstream watch will likely be needed by around 13z-14z. ..Leitman/Edwards.. 03/03/2023 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...LMK...OHX...BMX...HUN...PAH...MEG...JAN... LAT...LON 36008974 36938956 37368926 37688873 37868807 37918734 37868678 37748655 37208638 36328636 35068661 34518683 34178714 33848781 33598840 33638940 33788978 34038992 36008974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKuo Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 So HRRR and NAM 3km shows my area (Louisville, KY) not clearing out from the warm frontal convection till around noon BUT real time radar shows me clearing out in the next hr or so. That’s way ahead of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceciliaky Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, DJKuo said: So HRRR and NAM 3km shows my area (Louisville, KY) not clearing out from the warm frontal convection till around noon BUT real time radar shows me clearing out in the next hr or so. That’s way ahead of schedule. It looks like Bowling Green is already out of the rain - I’m just outside of E’town and it looks like we’ll be out of rain soon. Not home to confirm, but I don’t like the looks of it for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceciliaky Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, ceciliaky said: It looks like Bowling Green is already out of the rain - I’m just outside of E’town and it looks like we’ll be out of rain soon. Not home to confirm, but I don’t like the looks of it for sure. Also, BG is up to 57° at 7am (Eastern) E’town is still around 48° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKuo Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, DJKuo said: So HRRR and NAM 3km shows my area (Louisville, KY) not clearing out from the warm frontal convection till around noon BUT real time radar shows me clearing out in the next hr or so. That’s way ahead of schedule. Well rainshield stalled over Louisville. Definitely do not see my area destabilizing much if this continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Risk areas creep north some. Enhanced up to Cincy and a 10% tornado area added to KY/TN. Hatched wind area added for even parts of the 15% area near I-70. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, RobB said: I think the big story here will be the wind with the amount of rain we've had recently. If we get a good line with 60mph gusts, and then more strong wind afterwards I think it has the potential for a lot of tree damage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, ak9971 said: I think the big story here will be the wind with the amount of rain we've had recently. If we get a good line with 60mph gusts, and then more strong wind afterwards I think it has the potential for a lot of tree damage. Definitely a potential big issue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 HRRR continues with the linear trend and the very strong LP, getting down to 974 mb on the 12Z HRRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Cold and rainy. Let’s see how far that warm front lifts. It’s currently 41 here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceciliaky Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Snow____ said: Cold and rainy. Let’s see how far that warm front lifts. It’s currently 41 here I live 30-ish miles south of Louisville. Currently 62 degrees, no rain, and clouds are breaking up in the region. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKuo Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ceciliaky said: I live 30-ish miles south of Louisville. Currently 62 degrees, no rain, and clouds are breaking up in the region. What a difference those few miles make. Still on and off rain here in Louisville. Temp at 50F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, ceciliaky said: I live 30-ish miles south of Louisville. Currently 62 degrees, no rain, and clouds are breaking up in the region. That’s crazy. Here in Cincy less than 100 miles away it’s 41 and heavy rain right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 New SPC discussion is out. Enhanced risk actually expands east some more. 30% hatched wind all the way into extreme western NC and Virginia now and still includes Cincy/Louisville for our area. They've added a hatched tornado area as well that coincides with their recent discussion that was just posted for additional tornado watches. Certainly seems that SPC thinks it will be an active day in our area although it certainly doesnt feel like it outside right now. Closer to our region they are still talking about some discrete activity but scattered 60-80mph gusts in storms that do form. I'll post HRRR in the next post to not make this one too cluttered. SPC Latest Outlook Quote SPC AC 031611 Day 1 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1011 AM CST Fri Mar 03 2023 Valid 031630Z - 041200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS TN/OH VALLEYS TO THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS... ...SUMMARY... Numerous tornadoes and scattered swaths of severe damaging winds are probable into this evening from the Tennessee to Ohio Valleys towards the southern Appalachians. A few tornadoes may be strong (EF-2) with the greatest chance across parts of Kentucky and Tennessee. ...TN to OH Valleys and the central/southern Appalachians... Two primary areas of convective activity are ongoing from MS/AL/TN border area northwest to the confluence of the MS/OH Rivers. Leading pre-frontal squall, low-topped near the central MS/AL border with progressively deeper tops northward, will likely persist east-northeast this afternoon and reach the southern Appalachians by early evening. With broken cloudiness across AL and richer boundary-layer moisture, sampled by the 12Z LIX sounding, advecting north from the central Gulf Coast, this QLCS should ingest the northern gradient of peak surface-based buoyancy. This should result in intensification of the squall line with embedded QLCS tornadoes and damaging winds as the primary hazards. Farther north, broken convective bands are evident along the northern periphery of the warm sector near the MS/OH Rivers confluence, close to the deep surface cyclone. A robust surface pressure rise-fall couplet and the extreme low to deep-layer shear should compensate for the meager surface-based buoyancy and likely yield a mix of low-topped supercells and quasi-linear bowing segments, as convection rapidly spreads east-northeast. Tornadoes should be realized in sustained supercells and line-embedded mesovortices, a few of which could be significant. Given the supercell wind profiles and morning CAMs suggesting more broken convection, damaging winds will probably consist of scattered swaths of severe gusts from 60-80 mph. Severe potential today will be limited on the southern part by weakening DCVA and frontal convergence with southward extent, on the northern end by northward loss of boundary-layer destabilization away from the warm-frontal zone, and to the east by loss of both daytime heating and overall lift. As such, the unconditional probability gradient is kept rather broad on both sides, though the actual southern/northern/eastern cutoffs of severe could be abrupt. ..Grams/Wendt.. 03/03/2023 SPC MCD Quote Mesoscale Discussion 0244 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1015 AM CST Fri Mar 03 2023 Areas affected...much of Kentucky...far southern Indiana...Middle Tennessee...northern Alabama Concerning...Tornado Watch 60... Valid 031615Z - 031915Z The severe weather threat for Tornado Watch 60 continues. SUMMARY...The threat for tornadoes will increase through the afternoon, from near the Ohio River southward into northern Alabama and eventually Georgia. Additional watches are likely later today east of ongoing tornado watch #60. DISCUSSION...A surface low near the IL/KY border will continue to deepen today as it travels up the OH River Valley and near a warm front. Areas of thunderstorms are ongoing near the low, with an arcing line of cells extending south into northern AL. Breaks in the clouds as well as strong southerly advection will continue to destabilize the warm sector, with sufficient instability forecast to support supercells with tornadoes by afternoon. Limited instability near the warm front will be mitigated by very strong lift combined with cooling aloft, and these height falls will extend southward into Middle TN. Midlevel lapse rates will be steeper beneath the midlevel wave, with the surface low track and warm front zone being a favored area for tornadoes, some strong. Initial convection near the low has periodically shown signs of rotation. Ongoing storms from middle TN into northwest AL will continue to strengthen as well, aided by higher boundary-layer theta-e despite being south of the midlevel jet core. Very strong shear is in place across the entire region, favoring fast-moving supercells and tornado threat. ..Jewell/Grams.. 03/03/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Latest HRRR run. A few soundings posted below as well. Some nasty cells right as the front moves through. Cincy Metro Approx. Louisville Really interesting sounding out of Northern Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKuo Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Here's my amateur satellite analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Absolute nasty wind gusts after the cold front moves through. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) oh yeah only 927 m2/s2 measured storm relative helicity here (similar value at Nashville radar) Edited March 3, 2023 by Chinook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, ak9971 said: New SPC discussion is out. Enhanced risk actually expands east some more. 30% hatched wind all the way into extreme western NC and Virginia now and still includes Cincy/Louisville for our area. They've added a hatched tornado area as well that coincides with their recent discussion that was just posted for additional tornado watches. Certainly seems that SPC thinks it will be an active day in our area although it certainly doesnt feel like it outside right now. Closer to our region they are still talking about some discrete activity but scattered 60-80mph gusts in storms that do form. I'll post HRRR in the next post to not make this one too cluttered. SPC Latest Outlook SPC MCD I didn’t expect that seeing how the rain hasn’t moved out yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 maybe this could end up being a much larger tornado outbreak than yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceciliaky Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, DJKuo said: Here's my amateur satellite analysis. I am in the easternmost circle on the map (zip 42724, very near the Hardin Co mesonet station) ... it's rainy, the sky is bright, but it continues to get warmer. I'm actually at my house now after driving through nasty cold NKy, super rainy Louisville, and brightening sky I-65 corridor. At this point, I'm growing far more concerned about the backside winds. We've had 3" of rain this week and I've got some big pine trees just waiting to fall. Today might be that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Snow____ said: I didn’t expect that seeing how the rain hasn’t moved out yet There is a very small window where rain lifts before the front gets here. Maybe 1-2 hours and CAPE getting into the 500 ball park in cincy metro. Color me skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Tornado warning just south of Paducah. Rotation really tightened up recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ak9971 said: Tornado warning just south of Paducah. Rotation really tightened up recently. At 1112 AM CST, a confirmed tornado was located just south of Reidland, moving northeast at 55 mph. This tornado will cross I-24 near exit 11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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