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13 minutes ago, Grace said:

Tomorrow has me intrigued. It's sneaky. These little sneaky events seem to either bust or over-produce...no in between. 

What are you guys thinking about tomorrow over West Ky? Regional basketball tournaments are going on & the event is close to the time those events begin. Plus a lot of Wed evening church activities. 

Tomorrow morning will be a KY statewide tornado drill. Will be interesting to see the updated SPC map for tomorrow.

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51 minutes ago, Grace said:

Tomorrow has me intrigued. It's sneaky. These little sneaky events seem to either bust or over-produce...no in between. 

What are you guys thinking about tomorrow over West Ky? Regional basketball tournaments are going on & the event is close to the time those events begin. Plus a lot of Wed evening church activities. 

SPC doesn't have a marginal for the area right now, and PAH isn't impressed either. They've spent much more time looking at this than I have. Really just depends how far north the warm front goes. SPC and PAH don't think it'll go that far north. HRRR/NAM have a further north solution into western KY... has moderate low-level shear, moderate cape, but strong forcing. Storm motion is also mostly parallel with the front. Initial supercells with a tornado threat but should go linear pretty quick. 

HRRR/NAM have 2000+ cape up to Kentucky. The first day of March? I have questions about that. It's happened but it's rare for a reason.

An area of surface low pressure is located across northeast Wyoming
and will move east into the western Great Lakes on Wednesday. A cold
front will extend southwestward from it, and is expected to make
passage across our cwa during the afternoon and evening. Soundings
indicate the column quickly saturates in the low-mid levels
Wednesday afternoon and evening. Best forcing looks to remain well
north attached to the primary mid-level wave moving across the Great
Lakes. A secondary area of enhanced lift will be present south of
our region associated with some weak energy shuttling through the
southwest flow aloft ahead of the main upper low across the
southwest U.S.

Temperatures will be well above normal on Wednesday with highs
reaching the 70s. Low level moisture increases through the day, with
dewpoints rising through the 50s, and likely into the low 60s across
parts of southeast MO and west KY by late afternoon/early evening.
Soundings indicate a good amount of elevated instability, on the
order of 1000-1500 J/kg, developing by 21z. Models even suggest some
SBCAPE as well, but given the inversion present on soundings through
00z, it seems unlikely we get anything rooted to the surface.
Certainly a good chance at some rumbles of thunder and can`t
completely rule out a strong storm as the front makes passage. Mid
level lapse rates are rather impressive around 21z but quickly wane
after 00z, same goes for the instability. Wind fields are decent but
nothing to write home about, and the strongest low-mid level winds
remain south of our region. SPC continues to highlight the lower
Mississippi Valley region for severe weather in their Day 2 outlook,
with the marginal coming right up to the KY/TN border. Wouldn`t be
totally surprised to see the marginal inch a bit northward tomorrow,
but overall the parameter space certainly looks more favorable south
of us.

 

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30 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

SPC doesn't have a marginal for the area right now, and PAH isn't impressed either. They've spent much more time looking at this than I have. Really just depends how far north the warm front goes. SPC and PAH don't think it'll go that far north. HRRR/NAM have a further north solution into western KY... has moderate low-level shear, moderate cape, but strong forcing. Storm motion is also mostly parallel with the front. Initial supercells with a tornado threat but should go linear pretty quick. 

HRRR/NAM have 2000+ cape up to Kentucky. The first day of March? I have questions about that. It's happened but it's rare for a reason.

An area of surface low pressure is located across northeast Wyoming
and will move east into the western Great Lakes on Wednesday. A cold
front will extend southwestward from it, and is expected to make
passage across our cwa during the afternoon and evening. Soundings
indicate the column quickly saturates in the low-mid levels
Wednesday afternoon and evening. Best forcing looks to remain well
north attached to the primary mid-level wave moving across the Great
Lakes. A secondary area of enhanced lift will be present south of
our region associated with some weak energy shuttling through the
southwest flow aloft ahead of the main upper low across the
southwest U.S.

Temperatures will be well above normal on Wednesday with highs
reaching the 70s. Low level moisture increases through the day, with
dewpoints rising through the 50s, and likely into the low 60s across
parts of southeast MO and west KY by late afternoon/early evening.
Soundings indicate a good amount of elevated instability, on the
order of 1000-1500 J/kg, developing by 21z. Models even suggest some
SBCAPE as well, but given the inversion present on soundings through
00z, it seems unlikely we get anything rooted to the surface.
Certainly a good chance at some rumbles of thunder and can`t
completely rule out a strong storm as the front makes passage. Mid
level lapse rates are rather impressive around 21z but quickly wane
after 00z, same goes for the instability. Wind fields are decent but
nothing to write home about, and the strongest low-mid level winds
remain south of our region. SPC continues to highlight the lower
Mississippi Valley region for severe weather in their Day 2 outlook,
with the marginal coming right up to the KY/TN border. Wouldn`t be
totally surprised to see the marginal inch a bit northward tomorrow,
but overall the parameter space certainly looks more favorable south
of us.

 

 

My take away is that something unusual & not expected will take place if that 2000+ cape verifies. 

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30 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

SPC doesn't have a marginal for the area right now, and PAH isn't impressed either. They've spent much more time looking at this than I have. Really just depends how far north the warm front goes. SPC and PAH don't think it'll go that far north. HRRR/NAM have a further north solution into western KY... has moderate low-level shear, moderate cape, but strong forcing. Storm motion is also mostly parallel with the front. Initial supercells with a tornado threat but should go linear pretty quick. 

HRRR/NAM have 2000+ cape up to Kentucky. The first day of March? I have questions about that. It's happened but it's rare for a reason.

An area of surface low pressure is located across northeast Wyoming
and will move east into the western Great Lakes on Wednesday. A cold
front will extend southwestward from it, and is expected to make
passage across our cwa during the afternoon and evening. Soundings
indicate the column quickly saturates in the low-mid levels
Wednesday afternoon and evening. Best forcing looks to remain well
north attached to the primary mid-level wave moving across the Great
Lakes. A secondary area of enhanced lift will be present south of
our region associated with some weak energy shuttling through the
southwest flow aloft ahead of the main upper low across the
southwest U.S.

Temperatures will be well above normal on Wednesday with highs
reaching the 70s. Low level moisture increases through the day, with
dewpoints rising through the 50s, and likely into the low 60s across
parts of southeast MO and west KY by late afternoon/early evening.
Soundings indicate a good amount of elevated instability, on the
order of 1000-1500 J/kg, developing by 21z. Models even suggest some
SBCAPE as well, but given the inversion present on soundings through
00z, it seems unlikely we get anything rooted to the surface.
Certainly a good chance at some rumbles of thunder and can`t
completely rule out a strong storm as the front makes passage. Mid
level lapse rates are rather impressive around 21z but quickly wane
after 00z, same goes for the instability. Wind fields are decent but
nothing to write home about, and the strongest low-mid level winds
remain south of our region. SPC continues to highlight the lower
Mississippi Valley region for severe weather in their Day 2 outlook,
with the marginal coming right up to the KY/TN border. Wouldn`t be
totally surprised to see the marginal inch a bit northward tomorrow,
but overall the parameter space certainly looks more favorable south
of us.

 

 

My take away is that something unusual & not expected will take place if that 2000+ cape verifies. 

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5 minutes ago, Grace said:

 

My take away is that something unusual & not expected will take place if that 2000+ cape verifies. 

Not a slam dunk even if it does verify. Only a small window for supercells if you destabilize that much, then it turns into a squall which is not something unusual. But it seems there's not much confidence that the warm front will go that far north despite a couple solutions showing that.

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12 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

Not a slam dunk even if it does verify. Only a small window for supercells if you destabilize that much, then it turns into a squall which is not something unusual. But it seems there's not much confidence that the warm front will go that far north despite a couple solutions showing that.

Local mets here in KY are quite confident we’ll hit 80F for the high Wednesday here in Louisville, KY. Dry air was a concern regarding storms forming though. 

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2 hours ago, DJKuo said:

Local mets here in KY are quite confident we’ll hit 80F for the high Wednesday here in Louisville, KY. Dry air was a concern regarding storms forming though. 

Definitely an issue on NAM where the greatest parameters are. Front probably wouldn't have a problem producing though.

Tweeted a few hours before day 1 marginal was expanded north into S OH

 

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3 minutes ago, Neoncyclone said:

Looks like it was elevated just 10-20 minutes ago, it's definitely trying to root and become surface-based though, if it does it becomes a pretty big problem.

It's really going for surface based since it's now tornado-warned.

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