RobB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1/10 0Z NAEFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOhioChaser Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Now all we just need is some good moisture to link up with the timing of the cold to make it everyone’s worthwhile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin MaineJay Posted January 10 Admin Share Posted January 10 51 minutes ago, NWOhioChaser said: Now all we just need is some good moisture to link up with the timing of the cold to make it everyone’s worthwhile. We've just got so much rain. Since Dec 16 I'm at almost 10" of just rain. Add 15" of snow on that. It's been real hard on the roads. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, MaineJay said: We've just got so much rain. Since Dec 16 I'm at almost 10" of just rain. Add 15" of snow on that. It's been real hard on the roads. Eek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Czervik Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 7 hours ago, RobB said: 1/10 0Z NAEFS I would expect that this becomes a common very setup over the next two months. Sucks that March is already in the crapper in terms of warming up. Edited January 10 by Al_Czervik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Outbreak Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 48 minutes ago, Al_Czervik said: I would expect that this becomes a very setup over the next two months. Sucks that March is already in the crapper in terms of warming up. March is 2 months away. A lot can and will change by then. I'm just glad we are getting a winter of any kind after that abysmal December. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Czervik Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Arctic Outbreak said: March is 2 months away. A lot can and will change by then. I'm just glad we are getting a winter of any kind after that abysmal December. These things can impact an area for two months or more. Especially if the Western Ridge becomes established. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 13 minutes ago, Al_Czervik said: These things can impact an area for two months or more. Especially if the Western Ridge becomes established. I'll believe that when I see it can even become established for 2 weeks let alone 2 months 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1/10 12Z NAEFS: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdfarabaugh Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, RobB said: 1/10 12Z NAEFS: How long can cold last if source regions up north are warm? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 19 minutes ago, Cdfarabaugh said: How long can cold last if source regions up north are warm? Don't forget, above normal temps well up north temperatures are still cold. Slide it down south, can and often does bring colder than average temps to those areas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Cdfarabaugh said: How long can cold last if source regions up north are warm? along with what Rob said, you also have to consider that the colder air at times is "displaced" from where it should be as a nearly 1:1 correlation, If you tie out the NAEFS posted map above with the below you can see temperatures are actually close to the same in those warmer than average areas in Canada and the northern 1/3 of the US As long as that pocket is displaced OR there is a dumping mechanism (western ridge) that allows cold air from Canada to act as a slide from NW to SE right down in to our neck of the woods Edited January 10 by Ohiobuckeye45 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Pretty steady eddy deeply negative AO/NAO combo. About the time those start to normalize the PNA comes out of negative territory. It's all correlated, I'm sure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowloverSid Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 hours ago, Arctic Outbreak said: March is 2 months away. A lot can and will change by then. I'm just glad we are getting a winter of any kind after that abysmal December. March is actually only 50 days away— I was going to say seven weeks but then realized about Leap Year Day, delaying March by one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 if this -epo gets going very well could carry on for a while. Hopefully we can get some good snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1/11 0Z NAEFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin MaineJay Posted January 11 Admin Share Posted January 11 I still expect the pattern to retrograde similar to December. -NAO spike, the ridge moves west to Hudson Bay, and *some* degree of troffing in the Alaska region, resulting in a +EPO. Not trying to be Debbie downer, but until the cold actually arrives, I'm skeptical of it's staying power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Today's 0Z 8 to 10 day 500 millibar mean: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, MaineJay said: I still expect the pattern to retrograde similar to December. -NAO spike, the ridge moves west to Hudson Bay, and *some* degree of troffing in the Alaska region, resulting in a +EPO. Not trying to be Debbie downer, but until the cold actually arrives, I'm skeptical of it's staying power. One thing to keep in mind is by then there should be a sizable snowpack. Something December never had 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Outbreak Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 hours ago, SnowloverSid said: March is actually only 50 days away— I was going to say seven weeks but then realized about Leap Year Day, delaying March by one day. I was rounding 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 UKMET says winter is sticking around through Spring. A 3 month mean of -EPO, -AO, -NAO....trough east. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1816 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 24 minutes ago, Grace said: UKMET says winter is sticking around through Spring. A 3 month mean of -EPO, -AO, -NAO....trough east. There's a shocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Grace said: UKMET says winter is sticking around through Spring. A 3 month mean of -EPO, -AO, -NAO....trough east. By spring we will be in a new iceage 🥶🥶🥶🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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