Jpfalcon Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, NWsnowhio said: Yes. People tend to either really like him or not so much. I have always enjoyed his take on things and tend to trust the experience he has locally. He nailed a storm 3 days in advance last year that had local mets predicting 22" of snow. He predicted 7-13" area-wide, written on the back of an envelope as he used chopsticks and video of his computer screen to do his thing. Actual snow maps the next morning? Not one under 7"...not one over 13". Money. Bill's a great personality. We used to chat regularly via email when he first started at 13, he told me a few times that too many meteorologists today are reliant on technology (models) as opposed to studying climatology and basic weather physics. He got a kick out of doing more as he called it, "pencil and paper" type forecasting rather than looking at what a computer is spitting out. He has a plethora of experience and it shows in moments like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOhioChaser Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, NWsnowhio said: Yes. People tend to either really like him or not so much. I have always enjoyed his take on things and tend to trust the experience he has locally. He nailed a storm 3 days in advance last year that had local mets predicting 22" of snow. He predicted 7-13" area-wide, written on the back of an envelope as he used chopsticks and video of his computer screen to do his thing. Actual snow maps the next morning? Not one under 7"...not one over 13". Money. He’s great. Wrap it up folks! BlizzardBill has spoken! Toledo won’t get more than 4” for the event 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) If I were looking at these tele's & you simply told me a winter storm was coming associated with an Arctic blast, I'd never guess this would be a Midwest snowstorm. I'd be saying OV, GL possibly even EC or even possibly Tenn V. But I'd never guess upper Midwest. -NAO...with blocking south of Davis strait Steep rising PNA deep -AO Deep -EPO Edited December 19, 2022 by Grace 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidMichiganWx Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 First couple frames of the EURO look like this is shifting slightly east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver56 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Snow____ said: In all serious you might want to think about taking them down. I know it’s not in the spirit but may save you a headache if having to clean up or save you money on replacing damaged or missing lights. It is all good. We get a lot of wind at our place. It is all staked down and good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I'm now under a Wind Chill Watch for the Blue Norther for Thursday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) For once the NWS conus map will look pretty with all sorts of headlines(watches/warnings). Edited December 19, 2022 by junior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 12z Euro closes UL off really fast. So it's inevitable SLP heads north west of other 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOB11 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Grace said: If I were looking at these tele's & you simply told me a winter storm was coming associated with an Arctic blast, I'd never guess this would be a Midwest snowstorm. I'd be saying OV, GL possibly even EC or even possibly Tenn V. But I'd never guess upper Midwest. -NAO...with blocking south of Davis strait Steep rising PNA deep -AO Deep -EPO I’m a bit shocked too that this storm looks to be able to cut so heavy NW. With the pattern I too would have been sure it would have been closer to a western apps runner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver56 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Grace said: 12z Euro closes UL off really fast. So it's inevitable SLP heads north west of other 12z. Never know. Maybe it is nuts. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Grace said: 12z Euro closes UL off really fast. So it's inevitable SLP heads north west of other 12z. This allows SLP to strengthen faster. It also allows a lot of the snow to be stacked north if SLP. We all need to root for the UL to not close off so fast. We also need to hope this digs further south which tele's suggest would. Edited December 19, 2022 by Grace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, junior said: For once the NWS conus map will look pretty with all sorts of headlines(watches/warnings). One might even say Christmas colors 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 And dry slotted at 96 hrs. Probably worst case for my area… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Euro quite consistent over all.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Euro says not so fast guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, RobB said: Euro quite consistent over all.... Obviously one can pick nits but quite similar to 0Z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 It gave me a pity inch. More than 0z lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 The further south this digs the greater the snow totals will be as it will pull more from GOM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton229 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Well, hello Euro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWsnowhio Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 72 knot wind gusts at Toledo at hr 108. whooooosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harberr62 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Looks 60ish miles south to me…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmkay Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, NWsnowhio said: 72 knot wind gusts at Toledo at hr 108. whooooosh My biggest fear from this storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar66rus2 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, ryanmkay said: My biggest fear from this storm. The same for me. High winds are my least favorite when it comes to weather, and makes me anxious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpfalcon Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ryanmkay said: My biggest fear from this storm. It's very concerning. We've had several high wind events this year, can imagine there are a lot of weakened trees, power poles, etc. sitting out there just waiting for something to give them a little nudge...I told my wife we need to have a contingency plan in case we lose power since we have two young children. I hope people realize at least in our area that the snow threat is minimal. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncinthenext3 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, NWsnowhio said: 72 knot wind gusts at Toledo at hr 108. whooooosh Uh, no thanks. That's 80+ mph without doing the exact math. Damage will occur and people will lose power. Here's hoping that does not verify. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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