Wnwniner Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Odds are strong this starts as rain for central Ohio, right? So we can't pretreat roads... Any rough ideas on timing yet? Just starting to plan our response... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioWX Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Wnwniner said: Odds are strong this starts as rain for central Ohio, right? So we can't pretreat roads... Any rough ideas on timing yet? Just starting to plan our response... appears to be the case for Ohio, and most of eastern, if not all of Indiana. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Indygirl said: I’m off Thursday but very worried about Friday. Veterinary clinics hardly ever close (except for major holidays) ….if we are open….my boss will come get me in his truck, he’s done that several times. Last time was last February? I was his only tech that day because he DID pick me up, lol, but it was kinda fun too. All I know is I’m not driving no matter what. NWS meteorologists are expected to either 1) violate their own watch/warning product suggestions to travel into work or 2) heed NWS suggestions and sleep at the office until travel conditions improve I think I heard two mets in Duluth spent almost 60 hours at the office before going home with last weeks storm. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wnwniner said: Odds are strong this starts as rain for central Ohio, right? So we can't pretreat roads... Any rough ideas on timing yet? Just starting to plan our response... Does salt work in sub zero temps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 This 12z NAM looks ... not east ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyINwx Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 No. Salt doesn’t work below 20°. That’s why a majority of road departments including INDOT have gone to a brine solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easton229 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 NAM is wayyyyyyy west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, StLweatherjunkie said: This 12z NAM looks ... not east ... Agreed, it’s all over the place though. Hour 69 it has the low in Southern OK and 3 hours later has it in southern NM…agreed though it’s definitely west of the 6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver56 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, easton229 said: NAM is wayyyyyyy west Wide left! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 NAM tracking through Chicago but a lot less amp’d than globals. 1000+ mb low, really odd track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indygirl Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, junior said: Funny you say that because as a medical worker either my boss will come pick me up or the police will in snowstorms. It makes me feel special/needed I guess. 😆 It makes me feel like we should just close lol! (but Id feel really bad for the sick ones too, because we won’t be there for them until after Christmas….and a sick pet during an emergency is just as scary as a sick human. Believe me. 😞 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 🥶 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wnwniner Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Does salt work in sub zero temps? We have multiple products, including salt, calcium, and beet juice, all of which have various pros/cons. But not much works when its that cold... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted December 19, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2022 This is indicative of a high wind event. That it is so widespread is pretty amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWsnowhio Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: 🥶 That's quite the stretch of howling winds here in NW Ohio...yeesh. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, ak9971 said: Agreed, it’s all over the place though. Hour 69 it has the low in Southern OK and 3 hours later has it in southern NM…agreed though it’s definitely west of the 6z Folks needs to stop treating Tropical Tidbits surface low algorithm like it's gospel ... it's pretty clear there's still a low pressure in Oklahoma here. Just because the red "L" is analyzed in New Mexico means nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioWX Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Long range NAM doing long range NAM things. Really goofy track. Not sure this run is useful for much outside the next 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, StLweatherjunkie said: Folks needs to stop treating Tropical Tidbits surface low algorithm like it's gospel ... it's pretty clear there's still a low pressure in Oklahoma here. Just because the red "L" is analyzed in New Mexico means nothing. FWIW pivotal shows the same thing but understood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, RadioWX said: Long range NAM doing long range NAM things. Really goofy track. Not sure this run is useful for much outside the next 24 hours. A 999 mb low near Chicago at 00z Friday is well within the EPS ensemble spread. What's goofy about that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, ak9971 said: FWIW pivotal shows the same thing but understood. Both of their algorithms are similarly flawed then 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Looks like the system barrels onshore in the PAC NW tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 40 minutes ago, RobB said: Finally someone is mentioning "dry air" for these phantom backside snow solutions I think there is this notion that even if we're going to miss out on the main storm, the backend still gives a white Christmas, I'm truly not so sure about that 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioWX Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, StLweatherjunkie said: A 999 mb low near Chicago at 00z Friday is well within the EPS ensemble spread. What's goofy about that? low is all over the place hours 72-84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, RadioWX said: low is all over the place hours 72-84 I think this is the same discussion we just had, its really not. Tracks from southern Oklahoma right into Chicago although weaker than globals. I see it now, much harder to tell from the phone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 From earlier this morning ILN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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