Admin Sentinel Posted December 23, 2022 Admin Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ak9971 said: Something I've always noticed on Radarscope is that unless its ripping snow only shows up as maybe 5-10dBz. I am assuming this is because rain drops are slightly bigger and reflect with greater strength back toward the radar site? It can be quite tricky to see where the snow actually ends on radarscope sometimes. Yeah, it comes to many factors, again one of them being density. Snow in and of itself holds much less liquid than a raindrop. Consequently, a similar size snow flake will show up much lighter than a similar size rain drop. Likewise, most snow producing clouds tend to be closer to the ground than a large rain cloud. As such, distance from the radar plays a much more pronounced roll in snow intensity on radar than rain intensity. Ie, a rain cloud fifty miles away (completely arbitrary number) with similar size rain drops may look much stronger than a snow producing cloud as the radar beam (aimed upwards when released from the Radar) may miss the main snow producing region in the atmosphere all together. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, StormfanaticInd said: Here comes the scary part of the storm. We have 3000 without power here in Indy almost 100k out in Texas at this point from what I can only assume is issues with their grid and the cold weather. I think you'll see outages really start to ramp up soon as the wind picks up in the next few hours. https://poweroutage.us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbucks Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 It's Snowing in the CBus! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Uscg Ast said: Yeah, it comes to many factors, again one of them being density. Snow in and of itself holds much less liquid than a raindrop. Consequently, a similar size snow flake will show up much lighter than a similar size rain drop. Likewise, most snow producing clouds tend to be closer to the ground than a large rain cloud. As such, distance from the radar plays a much more pronounced roll in snow intensity on radar than rain intensity. Ie, a rain cloud fifty miles away (completely arbitrary number) with similar size rain drops may look much stronger than a snow producing cloud as the radar beam (aimed upwards when released from the Radar) may miss the main snow producing region in the atmosphere all together. Thanks, never even really thought of the cloud height part. Learn something new every day around here I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudy_jake Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just checked the great lakes radar on NOAA it looks like a big deformation band of light moderate and heavier pockets of snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Measured just around 3" here. Visibility is low out there with all the pixie dust flying around. Anything over 3" is a nice surprise for me. 14 degrees Edited December 23, 2022 by junior 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, cloudy_jake said: Just checked the great lakes radar on NOAA it looks like a big deformation band of light moderate and heavier pockets of snow! I can see that band dropping 5-7 inches if it sits and dumps like it may. I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Maybe not 10 inches like GFS but still very nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I mean if I can get 3 more inches like the RAP says this would be a big win lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincysnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Uscg Ast said: Yeah, it comes to many factors, again one of them being density. Snow in and of itself holds much less liquid than a raindrop. Consequently, a similar size snow flake will show up much lighter than a similar size rain drop. Likewise, most snow producing clouds tend to be closer to the ground than a large rain cloud. As such, distance from the radar plays a much more pronounced roll in snow intensity on radar than rain intensity. Ie, a rain cloud fifty miles away (completely arbitrary number) with similar size rain drops may look much stronger than a snow producing cloud as the radar beam (aimed upwards when released from the Radar) may miss the main snow producing region in the atmosphere all together. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I'd say I'm at 2-3ish but honestly it's so hard to tell, like I said earlier a couple wind gusts and it blew off the car so who knows how much has really fallen. It looks like there's light snow all the way back to W. Indiana so hoping to pickup another inch or so. Maybe if I get lucky I'll get under one of those smaller bands popping up in Kentucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I can definitely see MBY getting another inch or so if the fill in wave holds up. Would total around 4-5" here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I know it doesn’t take much to have a band stall out. So looking forward to some of those bands in KY and Indiana. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, junior said: I can definitely see MBY getting another inch or so if the fill in wave holds up. Would total around 4-5" here. Talk about a W. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Wind is gusting notably stronger around here. According to the latest HRRR our region in should start seeing gusts over 40 around 2-3a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Ohio is in an interesting spot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just started snowing here on the east side of Columbus, almost at midnight exactly. The Christmas Eve Eve Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ak9971 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 HRRR is still putting down 3ish additional inches on the 71 corridor around Dayton/Mason and then 5 additional up from there. I could see it based on radar returns currently and how it's initialized very similar to what's going on. I'm happy we met ILN guidance and didn't bust around here at least. Crazy to watch with this wind whipping the snow around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Sentinel Posted December 23, 2022 Admin Share Posted December 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Cincysnow said: That's it... No bourbon for you! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 HRRR through 9am. Just now, Uscg Ast said: That's it... No bourbon for you! A lot of bourbon talk around here, I want some! 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWsnowhio Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 You Central and SW Ohio folks deserve a good one. Radar seems to be working in your favor. Overachieve your butts off, folks! I’ll try to be content if we even get close to Blizzard Bill’s 2-4” call from Monday. I don’t doubt that old goat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleLakeEffect Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 All of this is just a rumor in Cleveland. It’s a balmy 39 degrees with no precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Keeping an eye on that band between Louisville and Seymour.. hoping it doesn’t slide north but it appears to be getting its act together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Ground is covered already. Going to try to stay up for that band near Dayton to move in then probably hit the hay. Fun storm to track y’all. Thanks to everyone that posts the play by plays each mode run. Cheers. https://youtu.be/U5Vlodb_W7w Edited December 23, 2022 by Jeffro 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jeffro said: Ground is covered already. Going to try to stay up for that band near Dayton to move in then probably hit the hay. Fun storm to track y’all. Thanks to everyone that posts the play by plays each mode run. Cheers. https://youtu.be/U5Vlodb_W7w Look at that snow blowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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