ak9971 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, StLweatherjunkie said: Definitely looks like its trending sharper. The shortwave across KS/OK is definitely looking more healthy Just for my own education, what do you mean by that and what would be the potential downstream impacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: We issued a freezing fog advisory tonight. I don’t remember the last time I’ve had a freezing fog event. Just got off work… when I went outside there was dense fog but the winds were blowing at 15-20 mph. I hadn’t been in fog when it’s windy before but it’s pretty cool. My car also had a bit of ice or frost on my windshield. Thankfully didn’t have to scrape. Oh, and how about this busyness? High of 57 tomorrow, low of 2. Casual 55 degree gap. Welcome to the High Plains, this kind of weather will become less unusual for you over time 😁 Advection fog is very different from most of the fog that happens in the OHV, fun stuff ... glad you are appreciating the weather out there! I'm sure you'll come to understand that wind direction is pretty important for the weather you should expect up there. I'm guessing easterly is upslope, southeasterly is moist upslope, south is hot/dry downslope, southwest is hot/dry downslope, west is warm/dry downslope, northwest is warm/dry downslope, north is cold/dry, northeast is cool upslope Edited December 21, 2022 by StLweatherjunkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ak9971 said: Just for my own education, what do you mean by that and what would be the potential downstream impacts? I meant more amplified, the height lines in the KS/OK trough are moving slightly farther south indicating more room to dig and the height lines in the ridge farther east are moving slightly farther north meaning more pre-frontal warm air advection. The adjustments are small, but I'm guessing it's signaling the beginning of the pretty common last-minute adjustment towards stronger and farther NW solutions. Edited December 21, 2022 by StLweatherjunkie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, StLweatherjunkie said: I meant more amplified, the height lines in the KS/OK trough are moving slightly farther south indicating more room to dig and the height lines in the ridge farther east are moving slightly farther north meaning more pre-frontal warm air advection. The adjustments are small, but I'm guessing it's signaling the beginning of the pretty common last-minute adjustment towards stronger and farther NW solutions. Appreciate the explanation! One thing I love about this place, there’s lots of knowledgeable people around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Euro wasn’t bad here. I mean it actually gave me a couple inches as opposed to not like 12z 😂😂. I call that progress. I can go to bed with that for sure. Gonna actually try and wake up a bit earlier tomorrow if I actually sleep well tonight. Goodnite folks. Dream of unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Euro track was slightly east as it went through Ohio, crosses over Erie between Toledo and Cleveland instead of passing just west of Toledo. Below are 10:1 and Kucheras Edited December 21, 2022 by ak9971 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLweatherjunkie Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Looks like the Euro still riding the drying train. Looking forward to the 12z suite! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow____ Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, StLweatherjunkie said: Looks like the Euro still riding the drying train. Looking forward to the 12z suite! As am I. Hopefully things can get wetter by a bit and we can all have smiles on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Euro wind gusts as well. Those and low temps seem to be about the only constants with this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Pretty clear nudge east from 12z. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak9971 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, snowlover2 said: Pretty clear nudge east from 12z. You can see this on the low track as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 A different look at 0z Euro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted December 21, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, StLweatherjunkie said: Welcome to the High Plains, this kind of weather will become less unusual for you over time 😁 Advection fog is very different from most of the fog that happens in the OHV, fun stuff ... glad you are appreciating the weather out there! I'm sure you'll come to understand that wind direction is pretty important for the weather you should expect up there. I'm guessing easterly is upslope, southeasterly is moist upslope, south is hot/dry downslope, southwest is hot/dry downslope, west is warm/dry downslope, northwest is warm/dry downslope, north is cold/dry, northeast is cool upslope Oh yeah. Loving it so far. Already experienced several phenomena I hadn't before. And yeah, the upsloping/downsloping was already intuitive to me but I've already learned how it's locally relevant. Southeasterly winds brought this in, and we're expecting the winds to switch to southwesterly tomorrow, so downsloping is going to help kill off the fog. Edited December 21, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbusbuckeye Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: We issued a freezing fog advisory tonight. I don’t remember the last time I’ve had a freezing fog event. Just got off work… when I went outside there was dense fog but the winds were blowing at 15-20 mph. I hadn’t been in fog when it’s windy before but it’s pretty cool. My car also had a bit of ice or frost on my windshield. Thankfully didn’t have to scrape. Oh, and how about this busyness? High of 57 tomorrow, low of 2. Casual 55 degree gap. Thats awesome man. I’ve never experienced fog with winds, I’d imagine that would be pretty wild! I’m sure that what you’re seeing out that way is way different than what you grew up with back in Ohio. It’s all part of the process! It’s awesome seeing some of you Mets land gigs with the NWS offices! Edited December 21, 2022 by Columbusbuckeye 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOhioChaser Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, NeXrad said: forget the Weather Channel..I’m calling this the Running Up That Hill storm..because it’s been an uphill battle to figure this thing out Forget Elliot. Storm is now called Stranger Things 2: Arctic Boogaloo 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FortySixAnd32 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Ohiobuckeye45 said: It's absolutely mind blowing, I want to know so bad I always recall Jym Ganahl talking about the Bellefontaine Ridge and how it affects ALL types of weather. I think there may be something to this and the models have an inherent bias built in to accommodate this phenomenon. I do not believe it will come into play in this scenario however. There's just too much cold air that would overtake the elevation change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortySixAnd32 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Ohiobuckeye45 said: My poor Christmas inflatables....im not sure what to do. They'll pool up with water and once we flash freeze it'll lock them up for good. The only way to counter that is to leave them blown up which has a -100% chance of me being that dumb with the winds I'd pay good money to watch that!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Dry air is relentlessly making an appearance run after run after run 6z rgem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortySixAnd32 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Ohiobuckeye45 said: My poor Christmas inflatables....im not sure what to do. They'll pool up with water and once we flash freeze it'll lock them up for good. The only way to counter that is to leave them blown up which has a -100% chance of me being that dumb with the winds 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 NAMs 10:1 compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ohiobuckeye45 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) GFS still stalls out over the thumb of MI, @970 Edited December 21, 2022 by Ohiobuckeye45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobuckeye45 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Gfs still outlier robust scenario, until something else catches on, it's just eye candy with its lower resolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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