Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) Valid for 7pm Friday, all the CAMs plus 12km NAM. Significant timing differences that, I think, will make SPC hesitant to be bold with the first day 2. Other than that, I think there's reasonable concern for pre-squall/warm sector cells that'd be capable of producing strong tornadoes. Where... though... is the question. Regardless... given extreme shear, especially in the northern half of the squall, I would expect mesovortices in the squall. Edited November 3, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 I haven't needed to break this out since April or May but here we go. STP overlapped with updraft helicity tracks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 Great tweet that shows how a cold front aloft messes with a hodograph in the surface warm sector 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Day 1 is up, slight risk expanded back into KS again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Day 2 is up with a 10 hatched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) Not surprised they went with 10% tornado/10% hatched, just a little surprised they did it with this outlook. Here's the 4-panel SPC outlook Day 2 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1259 AM CDT Thu Nov 03 2022 Valid 041200Z - 051200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS NORTHEAST TEXAS INTO SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND FAR SOUTHWEST ARKANSAS... ...SUMMARY... Strong to severe thunderstorms are expected Friday into Friday night across portions of the southern and central Plains into portions of the Arklatex. Scattered damaging gusts, hail and a few tornadoes will be possible. ...Southern Plains into AR/LA and Vicinity... A complex scenario for severe thunderstorm potential exists on Friday across parts of the southern Plains into the Arklatex vicinity. The large-scale pattern will be characterized by a potent upper shortwave trough centered over the Four Corners/southern Rockies vicinity Friday morning. As the trough ejects eastward toward the Plains, a closed low is expected to develop and an intense 80-100 kt south/southwesterly 500 mb jet will overspread portions of the southern Plains by evening. Meanwhile, strong warm advection will persist over the region on a 35-50 kt southerly 850 mb jet. This southerly low-level flow will transport rich boundary-layer moisture northward ahead of a cold front developing southeast across the central Plains the lower-MO/Upper MS valleys, and an eastward-advancing dryline across central/eastern TX. Mid/upper 60s F dewpoints are forecast ahead of the dryline across TX into southeast OK/southern AR and LA. Boundary-layer moisture will diminish with north/northeast extent ahead of the cold front, with low/mid 60s F dewpoints as far north as northeast OK/northern AR. Widespread cloud cover will limit surface heating. However, steepening midlevel lapse rates atop an unseasonably moist boundary-layer will support moderate destabilization, especially across TX where moisture quality will be best. Thunderstorm clusters will likely be ongoing at the beginning of the period near the cold front from northwest OK into central KS. This initial activity will mainly be capable of hail and strong gusts as the surface cold front shifts southeast across KS and western OK. With time, warm sector convection is expected to develop in the vicinity of the I-35 corridor from south-central OK into north/central TX. Uncertainty remains regarding convective mode due to differences in guidance with the timing of surface boundaries and the ejecting upper trough. However, a mix of semi-discrete supercells and clusters/line segments initially appears possible beginning Friday afternoon. This activity will likely grow upscale into a QLCS across southeast OK/northeast TX toward western AR/LA. All severe hazards will be possible, including damaging gusts, hail, and a few tornadoes (a couple of which could be significant). Of note continues to be differences in forecast guidance regarding the timing of the ejecting of an upper trough over the southern Rockies Friday morning. The ECMWF/GFS solutions are around 3-6 hours quicker with the eastward progression of this system compared to the NAM/HRRR/HREF/SREF. This also has implications for the evolution of the surface cold and the dryline. Given this uncertainty, in conjunction with latest guidance from various CAMS, HREF and the NCAR HRRR Neural Network Convective Hazards guidance, the Enhanced risk has been expanded westward toward the I-35 corridor in north/central TX. Edited November 3, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 The clouds are streaming north very quickly! I have also discovered a moisture surge that occured this morning, the Dew Point was 56°F at 4 AM this morning, now it's at 61°F! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 hours ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Great tweet that shows how a cold front aloft messes with a hodograph in the surface warm sector The 12z Mesoscale models are starting to shift west, except the NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 Morning satellite shows widespread fog over much of the Southern Plains but quickly burns out. Sure enough... a nearly completely saturated layer is already in place below a cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Morning satellite shows widespread fog over much of the Southern Plains but quickly burns out. Sure enough... a nearly completely saturated layer is already in place below a cap. That fog literally caused the moisture surge in my area, the dew point is currently at 62°F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 D2 Enhanced risk expanded east, there is more room for a Moderate Risk somewhere in NE Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 18z HRRR 40 hour loop. plenty of storms out ahead of the front, a saving grace might be that the more meridional storm-motion with this event causes lots of storm interaction keeping the tornado threat down. Edited November 3, 2022 by Neoncyclone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, Neoncyclone said: 18z HRRR 40 hour loop. plenty of storms out ahead of the front, a saving grace might be that the more meridional storm-motion with this event causes lots of storm interaction keeping the tornado threat down. Yeah I was gonna say, looks like a messy storm mode. Seems unlikely that there'll be long-tracked tornadoes... though the very quick storm motion would certainly make that easier to achieve... but strong tornadoes seems like a good bet. Can't sleep on the squall with this crazy shear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 3, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) HREF has some UH tracks in the vicinity of a mean of 4 STP. Certainly very rare for November. Just gotta hope messy storm mode saves the people of Texas. Certainly seems like NE Texas and E Texas are the highest threat for tornadoes. Edited November 3, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 4, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 4, 2022 Love the double EML at FWD this evening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted November 4, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Unfortunately, prior to realizing the scope of tomorrows event, I've planned to go to Dayton tomorrow to visit some people before I move to Amarillo next weekend. I'll probably be done driving by the time the event starts, but I'll likely be too busy to post. I'll definitely be trying to sneak peaks at the radar. Edited November 4, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 hours ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Unfortunately, prior to realizing the scope of tomorrows event, I've planned to go to Dayton tomorrow to visit some people before I move to Amarillo next weekend. I'll probably be done driving by the time the event starts, but I'll likely be too busy to post. I'll definitely be trying to sneak peaks at the radar. I'll try to get you in if there is a PDS Tornado Warning or Emergency. Just check the radar every so often! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Good morning everyone, 09z HRRR shows a lot more space in between storms, still looks a bit messy, but compared to previous runs it's a lot cleaner. hopefully it doesn't become a trend this morning because if this verified I could even see a long-track tornado or two happening. Edited November 4, 2022 by Neoncyclone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralLA_Wx Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Looking like the threat here in central Louisiana will be overnight (main threat is damaging wind with leading edge of squall line). Could also be some supercells ahead of main line. Right now SPC has me in just the 2% tornado risk zone but wouldn't be surprised if that increases some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) I don't like this sounding, the sounding over DFW is less favorable than the OUN sounding. @ClicheVortex2014 Edited November 4, 2022 by Iceresistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Moderate risk added minutes ago! 15% hatched for tornadoes, 45% hatched for wind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Think there is a threat for strong to severe wind gusts here in the OV tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Moderate risk now with significant tornadoes possible Edited November 4, 2022 by StormfanaticInd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snowlover2 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Think there is a threat for strong to severe wind gusts here in the OV tomorrow Yep a marginal risk for wind was added tomorrow for E IN /W OH. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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