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2 hours ago, clm said:

So does that towering help strengthen the eye?  Does it also help feed the storm in terms of wind and/or rain? 

In a sense. The towering itself is an indicator, not the mechanism, regarding the strengthening. 

Hurricanes strengthen due to laten heat release. What this means is that Water Vapor is lifted from the surface and cools to condense in the upper atmosphere. This condensation necessitates a release of heat (In order to transition from vapor to liquid, there must be a release of heat). This heat release fuels the storm. When you see the towering tops show up on models, what you are seeing is a large amount of latent heat release. The mechanism behinds this remains the same, however, it is happening over a much larger column of air (45k+ feet vs 25-30k feet). This additional height allows for significantly higher amounts of latent heat release. In turn, this allows for a much stronger Tropical System.

 

TL:DR - Higher Cloud Tops signal more latent heat release, thus meaning the storm has copious amounts of fuel.  

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2 hours ago, Psu1313 said:

Haha. We have to remember that this is a new forum and we've been split in half. There are some good posters over at WxDisco still, even if PM is a bit bipolar. 

Looking back at Ian, there really is no good outcome here, but the best outcome is that he stays 200+ miles off shore and comes ashore on the western edge of the current cone. With this, he will interact with the cold front and hopefully lose a lot of punch before landfall, and hopefully less water would be pushed into the Western coast of Florida. Closer to the coast and you're pushing a ton of water into TB, and onshore early, potentially you would have a major hurricane landfalling in Florida. 

Even PM is a good poster when he is calm. He has a good bit of knowledge, just doesn't always know how to convey it seems.

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As of 2 hours ago, microwave imagery shows a bit of discontinuity if the eye wall, there's some spiraling inward, it's close though. I think it's still trying to organize a coherent, continuous eyewall. I feel like the bands just out from the smallest diameter "ring" keep overpowering the inner eye wall (as it's not mature).  This is based on watching the convection pulse, then the clouds tops cool.  Then another inner band fires up, tries to pull towards the center and establish itself as the new eyewall. Lather, rinse, repeat.

This may also cause it's wobbling? As it appears to be doing.

 Just explaining my observations.

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2 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

It only has like 6-8" of rain for the coast which is very hard to believe

60 hours of on shore flow off the gulf of Mexico in a tc. Come on. That's like 20-30 minimum. If there were hills in FL it would actually be apocalyptic. 

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5 minutes ago, StretchCT said:

Still no eye, but is fairly pretty (or handsome).  More recon heading in.  Seems NHC went and upped the winds based on sat presentation.  We'll find out soon for sure. 

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I was wrong but I was sure the eye would clear out by now. Guess there's something going on to prevent it, could it be all the difficulties this one has had aligning itself and stacking?

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