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Just now seeing what occurred in Kentucky overnight. Prayers out to them. Devastating flooding this week. Hope no loss of life is reported. 
 

Also back out in St.Louis I’m seeing right now they are being hit hard with more rain. Prayers to them as well.

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Unfortunately the focus of the rain is very slowly shifting south. E KY still has more rain coming. 

Really continuing the theme of 2022: mother nature slams one specific region and none other for a while. Hopefully that theme knocks off when the hurricane season wakes up.

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Interesting that this moisture can be traced back to Monsoonal moisture, as the above map suggests.

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43 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

Unfortunately the focus of the rain is very slowly shifting south. E KY still has more rain coming. 

Really continuing the theme of 2022: mother nature slams one specific region and none other for a while. Hopefully that theme knocks off when the hurricane season wakes up.

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Interesting that this moisture can be traced back to Monsoonal moisture, as the above map suggests.

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That Bermuda HP tho…

edit: i should have elaborated more, it is my understanding, one of the main reasons for the flooding, is the Bermuda HP throwing/steering moisture back towards the frontal boundary. 

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8 minutes ago, Cincysnow said:

That Bermuda HP tho…

edit: i should have elaborated more, it is my understanding, one of the main reasons for the flooding, is the Bermuda HP throwing/steering moisture back towards the frontal boundary. 

You're right and that's a big player, but this wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the slow-moving Great Lakes trough. That created a brutal stationary front where moisture pools up. Get that, in addition to the Bermuda high/Monsoonal connection, and you get disasters. 

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2 hours ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

Unfortunately the focus of the rain is very slowly shifting south. E KY still has more rain coming. 

Really continuing the theme of 2022: mother nature slams one specific region and none other for a while. Hopefully that theme knocks off when the hurricane season wakes up.

image.png.25d3e34078099182f2a650a8065f1423.png

Interesting that this moisture can be traced back to Monsoonal moisture, as the above map suggests.

gfs_mslp_pwata_us_fh-72-132.gif

Aren't stationary fronts in the south a normal mainstay of summer though?  

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39 minutes ago, Cdfarabaugh said:

Aren't stationary fronts in the south a normal mainstay of summer though?  

Not really because that implies a persistent cool airmass over the Midwest/OV/GL since we're north of the stationary front. I wish that was the case, but it's not normally the case.

I think you're thinking of summertime popup storms over the Southeast. Those aren't related to any front, really. They just occur due to very strong daytime heating.

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Been wondering there wasn't more warning for EKY and WV.  NAM3k was the only model that had rainfall that high.  While we usually scoff at the qpf that the NAM3k puts out, I've seen several extreme events where it was pretty good at sniffing disasters out.  Now maybe this wasn't exactly where the rain fell, but it did show potential for 13". The UKMET 12z run 7-26 also had WV with double digit rain, but none of the others did.  Most were 3-4".  

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just listening to the news in car and the reports are devastating.  Entire farms gone, including livestock and farmers.  Hopefully the farmers are just safe somewhere else.  

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1 hour ago, StretchCT said:

Been wondering there wasn't more warning for EKY and WV.  NAM3k was the only model that had rainfall that high.  While we usually scoff at the qpf that the NAM3k puts out, I've seen several extreme events where it was pretty good at sniffing disasters out.  Now maybe this wasn't exactly where the rain fell, but it did show potential for 13". The UKMET 12z run 7-26 also had WV with double digit rain, but none of the others did.  Most were 3-4".  

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just listening to the news in car and the reports are devastating.  Entire farms gone, including livestock and farmers.  Hopefully the farmers are just safe somewhere else.  

WPC had the area in three straight days of moderate risks for flash flooding. Models might not have nailed it, but WPC certainly sensed something significant could happen.

Dunno how HRRR did, but that's really the model that I'd expect to sense the possible catastrophe on a scale somewhat larger than local scale. Like, somewhere within several counties.

There's actually still a moderate risk for flash flooding. Just a little bit further south.

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Here's a Wikipedia page for the EKY floods. Says 15 are confirmed dead, multiple others missing. I saw an article that said they expect the death count to at least double.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Eastern_Kentucky_floods

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Gonna call it a thread on the 31st. Yeah, there's a couple marginal risks for the next couple days, but we're entering a new pattern regime. We're in the season of non-stop marginal risks, so gotta call it an end at some point.

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5 hours ago, ClicheVortex2014 said:

Here's a Wikipedia page for the EKY floods. Says 15 are confirmed dead, multiple others missing. I saw an article that said they expect the death count to at least double.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Eastern_Kentucky_floods

Just saw 25 reported by NYT

Eastern KY flooded in 2020 too. 
https://www.weather.gov/jkl/20200206_floodsnow

And 2021

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/weather/2021/03/03/eastern-kentucky-communities-survey-damage-widespread-flooding/6890032002/

actually twice in 2021

https://www.wtvq.com/heavy-rain-saturday-caused-flooding-in-some-eastern-ky-counties/

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