Iceresistance Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The GEFS is starting to show some possible setups in Mid-May in the Central & Southern Plains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just looked at the SPC, there's an Enhanced risk in the Northern Plains for North Dakota, South Dakota, and Minnesota on D4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Looks like there's a 2-3 hour window for a monster supercell to mature before going linear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) There has been a long swath of hail reports from just after 12z today to now, with up to 2.5" hail in Wisconsin recently. (7 significant hail reports.) That's a lot of significant hail reports for a morning! Edited May 9, 2022 by Chinook 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chinook said: There has been a long swath of hail reports from just after 12z today to now, with up to 2.5" hail in Wisconsin recently. (7 significant hail reports.) That's a lot of significant hail reports for a morning! Hail will be a threat this afternoon as well! 10% hatched for hail, 10% risk for tornadoes has also been introduced for the area the HRRR is predicting a large supercell to form before things go linear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 HRRR still predicting a monster storm, very strong deep-layer shear ahead of the storm before it matures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 Looks like we could have some pretty big days this week up north, starting today. Thursday and that Day 4 enhanced looks to be the peak of this event, that's not an area where you see a Day 4 enhanced all that often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hrrr has 5000 sbcape/70-80 knots effective shear for the initial supercell. Seems really overdone because that’s ridiculous… but we are in that time of year where that’s possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Hrrr has 5000 sbcape/70-80 knots effective shear for the initial supercell. Seems really overdone because that’s ridiculous… but we are in that time of year where that’s possible Ok 4600 sbcape/83 knots effective shear. Close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Mesoscale Discussion 0700 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0154 PM CDT Mon May 09 2022 Areas affected...southern/central MN into far northern IA Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely Valid 091854Z - 092030Z Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent SUMMARY...The airmass across southern MN into northern IA is rapidly destabilizing and severe potential is increasing. A tornado watch will likely be needed by 20-21z. DISCUSSION...The airmass across southern MN into far northern IA is rapidly recovering from morning convection and quickly destabilizating. Mid to upper 60s F surface dewpoints are now widespread across northern IA to near the MN state line as temperatures have warmed into the upper 60s to mid 70s. This is resulting in rapidly eroding MLCIN. Towering cumulus have been noted across southwest MN over the past hour or so as a north to south oriented surface boundary/dryline quickly progresses eastward. A warm front is extending southeast from a surface low near Fargo ND toward southeast MN. The warm front is forecast to lift northward into central MN/west-central WI over the next few hours. While large-scale ascent is forecast to remain rather weak, strong vertical shear, both effective and in the 0-1 km layer, steep lapse rates and strong instability will support organized supercells. Weaker forcing will likely limit the number of storms, but one or two intense cells are expected to develop over the next few hours. Current VWP data from the KMPX 88-D near the warm frontal zone already indicated enlarged, favorably curved hodographs with 0-1 km SRH greater than 450 m2/s2. Any cell that develops withing the northward retreating warm frontal zone will have enhanced tornado potential in addition to large hail and damaging gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Heat building 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Surprised by the probabilities here. I guess they're expecting things to go linear before any supercell can really get going and put down something strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Satellite suggests the cap is putting on a fight for now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Cap appears to have broke. Cells are nice and spaced out for now. Mesoanalysis has 2000-3500 sbcape/80 knots effective shear for this area so there should be rapid organization Edited May 9, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Cap appears to have broke. Cells are nice and spaced out for now. Mesoanalysis has 2000-3500 sbcape/80 knots effective shear for this area so there should be rapid organization 80 knots with 3000 cape is a bad mix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Tornado warning but not much on radar. A couple cells to the south look quite interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 That's more like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Storms looking impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 oh dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Not good 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, StormfanaticInd said: Not good 😬 Now tornado warned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Messy storm mode today. The one southeast of Minneapolis has my eye for now because it's more discrete. Again, for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Might have a tornado either ongoing or soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 This group of storms has been moving towards greater storm-relative helicity but lower surface-based CAPE. I wonder if they will not produce the best tornado chances as they adjust to the changing environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 9, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 9, 2022 Good example of how very favorable conditions can be rendered mostly sub-severe by semi-discrete convection that is just close enough to interfere with eachother. Hell, if they were closer and became linear, the severe threat would be greater. This is the same kind of thing that happened with a January 2017 high risk day in SE AL/S GA/N FL. The strongest tornado of the day was outside of the high risk and most favorable parameters. The difference was that the cell wasn't being interfered with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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