Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Don't have 5 sighail parameter on mesoanalysis very often but 5000+ sbcape and 50 knots effective shear would do it. Man, if storms can get going it'll be explosive Edited May 15, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Wednesday through Saturday is looking interesting and has my attention 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 For Friday 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Not liking my chances for severe weather today. 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 Yay erroneous soundings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Cells are popping in NE OK. Significant hail parameter is down to 2-3 in the area so that's an improvement but still supportive of >2" diameter hail. The western supercell went from literally nothing on radar to a severe warning in ~24 minutes. The fastest I remember seeing is in the upper teens so this is pretty impressive Edited May 15, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) SPC just did an unscheduled day 1 update to add a 5% tornado area for E OK. Has to do with the fact that cells have indeed popped, and (not stated; in my opinion) the potential for outflow boundary interaction/nocturnal LLJ. While they were at it, they adjusted probabilities for those whose severe threats are over. Wouldn't have been surprised if they upgraded to 45% hatched hail for E OK, too. Edited May 15, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 Well, this is what happens when you have 5000+ sbcape/<-10 LI 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Perfect summer storms in SE IL, little penny-nickel sized hail, lots of lightning and lots of rain. Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) A couple of pretty decent mesos/decent looking supercells. Kinda scary considering the nocturnal LLJ is gonna kick in in an hour or two. Edited May 15, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 The only supercell that's still thriving has a strengthening meso but it's eating a lot of cells as it moves almost due south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: The only supercell that's still thriving has a strengthening meso but it's eating a lot of cells as it moves almost due south. Warned for 3" hail/70 mph winds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Warned for 3" hail/70 mph winds a vertical slice with the high reflectivity over 60 dBz high up close to Muskogee OK Edited May 16, 2022 by Chinook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Feels like Indiana just finds ways to bust. Lol just might get a shower tonight 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOhioChaser Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Feels like Indiana just finds ways to bust. Lol just might get a shower tonight 🙄 At least well be able to see the eclipse....oh wait..🙄 Shit pisses me off 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 somehow the clouds cleared out here in SE Il just went out to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Was busy today so couldn't really post. Was in the enhanced risk for wind/hail today but the first round stayed way east in AR and the second round couldn't develop until it got south of me. I'm actually glad everything missed me since it would have ruined our golf round... Anyway looks like a solid amount of wind/hail reports so it seems like this was a pretty active day. Looking ahead the Day 6 slight risk certainly has my attention, but I think Thursday could get pretty interesting here as well unfortunately, the GFS seems to have a lesser cap issue than on previous runs. I'm really hoping we don't see anything here Thurs... Also tomorrow in the northeast is looking pretty dangerous, not to often you see an enhanced risk up there Edited May 16, 2022 by OKwx_2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 16, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Still surprised GFS is looking like this for Thursday. Unlike what I thought originally, it seems this is a legit shortwave (existence is, strength in question) Definitely feels like a MCS event but who knows this time of year. Extreme SE IN. -12 LI thanks to nearly 8C/km mid-level lapse rates with more than enough shear for a MCS Edited May 16, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Central Illinois Posted May 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) SPC still mentioning pretty good chance of severe weather towards the end of the week across the Midwest Edited May 16, 2022 by Central Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cer5059 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 In the enhanced area for today up in the northeast. Any idea what to expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 ILN still very concerned with Wednesday through Friday night. Mentions of all severe modes and flooding during that period. Quote .LONG TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... An active weather pattern is expected for the start of the long term period as several quickly-moving S/Ws track E across the OH Vly within the quasi-zonal/NW flow atop a quasi-stationary WNW-ESE oriented LL frontal boundary. The first of several midlevel disturbances will track E through the OH Vly late Tuesday night into the day on Wednesday. This will promote the development of some convection toward daybreak Wednesday and beyond, which will be primarily elevated in nature until better LL destabilization can occur later into the day on Wednesday from the SW. This initial batch of SHRA, with perhaps a rumble of thunder or two, is likely to move quickly through the ILN FA through the first half of the day Wednesday. It will leave in its wake a trailing WNW- ESE oriented baroclinic zone draped across the southern OH Vly, potentially very close to the OH Rvr. As the initial S/W pulls E, better sfc theta-e advection will become established by late Wednesday afternoon through the evening hours, with LL destabilization efforts underway, initially for SW parts of the local area during this time frame. There remain quite a few of uncertainties in the fcst at these time ranges, but the setup for active weather locally does seem to carry with it some degree of concern for episodic SHRA/TSRA from Wednesday evening through even the day on Thursday. Not only would this portend the potential for one or more episodes of storms, but also the risk for repeated convectively-driven heavy rain leading to hydro concerns as well. The better shear profiles are likely to evolve Wednesday evening into early Thursday morning as LL destabilization continues to increase from SW to NE during this time frame. The primary source for lift on Wednesday evening/night will be the convergent axis stretching from WNW to ESE across southern IN/OH and N KY. Although the best H8 LLJ will be pulling E toward later Wednesday evening/night, there will still be some subtle convergence along the LL boundary amidst an environment of increasing LL moisture advection/convergence. And as the initial S/W energy pulls E, a better northward surge of deeper moisture will commence for the second half of the day Wednesday, especially across far S/SW parts of the OH Vly. One of the main questions that remains for Wednesday evening/night is just how much forcing/lift will evolve, which will ultimately dictate the degree to which convection can reinitiate or be sustained along the aforementioned boundary. One thing that does appear to be a concern is the potential for renewed/repeated convection Wednesday evening/night near the boundary with a steering-layer flow that will largely overlap the LL boundary and source lift while sfc inflow into the boundary will remain normal to it. This creates a scenario where training of convection may be favored, potentially in the form of one or more convective complexes, suggesting a hydro concern may very well come into play. Of course, the details of where this would be favored are far from certain at this point. There does remain some latitudinal variability in the guidance regarding where this boundary will set up, but it would appear that locales near/south of the OH Rvr would be more in-line for this potential at this juncture. The signal is certainly there for one or more convective complexes Wednesday evening/night across the southern OH Vly, with the hydro threats more of a concern locally than the severe threat with the best LL thermodynamic environment staying in the far south, or potentially just south, of the ILN FA. With the potential for numerous SHRA/TSRA within a narrow WNW-ESE corridor in the southern third or quarter of the ILN FA Wednesday evening/night, the setup for the daytime Thursday becomes even more uncertain, especially with questions regarding presence of a source of lift and whether the cap can hold. One thing that does appear to be likely is the continued theta-e advection N further into the ILN FA, with high, to potentially extreme, instby developing during the daytime period. The intricacies of how this will all unfold are far from clear at this juncture. But... there appears to be enough overlap in the shear/instby parameter spaces to yield more than just a little concern for one or more rounds of strong to severe storms, if the nosing of the LLJ by midday can promote enough lift to generate some convective initiation. The overall pattern/setup is more than favorable for a severe weather episode during this time frame, but the degree to which this evolves, especially regarding coverage of storms, will take some time to reveal itself. Very bluntly, there is some guidance that shows a window for sufficient overlap of high instby amidst sufficient deep-layer speed and directional shear to suggest that all severe hazards, including flooding, may come into play at one time or another Thursday, particularly for locales south of the I-70 corridor. The caveat is whether the environment becomes uncapped or there is sufficient lift to overcome it. It could end up being a scenario where we progress into the morning on Thursday and are still not certain whether the cap will be overcome. Nevertheless, the signal is strong enough that felt it is prudent to start mention in the HWO, at least in a broad sense to begin with. By later Thursday evening into the night, midlevel height rises will commence locally as the trof across the upper Midwest digs into the central plains. This amplifying midlevel ridge axis will position itself across the heart of the ILN FA Friday, favoring drier, but certainly plenty warm and humid, conditions for the final workweek of the week. Friday looks to be the warmest and most uncomfortable day of the week, with temps likely reaching into the upper 80s with DPs in the mid/upper 60s. Guidance still differs quite a bit of variation regarding the timing of the front through the ILN FA sometime in the Friday night through Saturday time frame. Either way, the FROPA will offer renewed chances for SHRA/TSRA pretty much everywhere before drier and cooler conditions filter in late on Saturday in the post frontal environment. While there certainly could be a strong to severe storm potential with the FROPA, the more concerning and pressing signal for Wednesday night (mainly hydro/low end severe) and Thursday (hydro/severe) takes precedence at this juncture. Will hold off on further discussions regarding the FROPA Friday night/Saturday for now until the details come into better focus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Depending on how things evolve really starting to watch Wednesday and Thursday. Parameters are pretty high potentially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) I don't know if a lot of people are interested in talking about E Coast severe weather, but there is a rare tornado warning over the Catskill Mountains of NY, close to Pennsylvania. Edited May 16, 2022 by Chinook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators StretchCT Posted May 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Chinook said: I don't know if a lot of people are interested in talking about E Coast severe weather, but there is a rare tornado warning over the Catskill Mountains of NY, close to Pennsylvania. I'm following it on daily obs, too lazy to open a new thread. Didn't seem that great of a severe opp this morning. There's a suspicious cell NW of Gloversville too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Now there is a storm next to Lowville with a tornado warning. This is the area of the Tug Hill, famous for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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