Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 14, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 14, 2022 Storm development in this area should be fun to watch. Can’t go wrong with two outflow boundaries clashing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Outflow boundary has arrived. Pretty damn strong winds with it… much stronger than I was expecting. At the moment, all that warm air is being viciously pushed up. Storms are being made Damn close to opening up here. Got some wind/thunder/lightning. Just need the rain/small hail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincysnow Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Outflow boundary has arrived. Pretty damn strong winds with it… much stronger than I was expecting. Same here, could see clouds of pollen blowing out of the trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Not a shocker. Quote Flood Advisory National Weather Service Wilmington OH 649 PM EDT Sat May 14 2022 OHC113-150200- /O.NEW.KILN.FA.Y.0030.220514T2249Z-220515T0200Z/ /00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ Montgomery OH- 649 PM EDT Sat May 14 2022 ...FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING... * WHAT...Flooding caused by excessive rainfall is expected. * WHERE...A portion of West Central Ohio, including the following county, Montgomery. * WHEN...Until 1000 PM EDT. * IMPACTS...Minor flooding in low-lying and poor drainage areas. Water over roadways. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS... - At 649 PM EDT, radar indicated heavy rain due to thunderstorms. Minor flooding is ongoing or expected to begin shortly in the advisory area. Between 1 and 1.5 inches of rain have fallen. Additional rainfall amounts of 0.5 to 1 inch are possible. - Some locations that may experience flooding include... Dayton, Kettering, Huber Heights, Trotwood, Vandalia, Englewood, Moraine, Oakwood, Riverside, Clayton, Union, Brookville, New Lebanon, Shiloh, Northview, Fort Mckinley, Drexel and Pyrmont. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Turn around, don`t drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood deaths occur in vehicles. Keep children away from storm drains, culverts, creeks and streams. Water levels can rise rapidly and sweep children away. Be aware of your surroundings and do not drive on flooded roads. To report flooding, go to our website at weather.gov/iln and submit your report via social media, when you can do so safely. && LAT...LON 3990 8447 3989 8427 3988 8414 3972 8417 3975 8447 $$ Coniglio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Gotta love watching storm development right on top of you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Rain has started here but nothing too heavy yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 14, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 14, 2022 *jaws theme music* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) Maybe one or 2 drops here but like 0.25 miles away from a waterfall. Quite the lightning show and a greenish tinge to the clouds too. Edited May 14, 2022 by junior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortySixAnd32 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Backflow and Outflow about to collide!!! Awesome!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 I'm literally in the only spot in Beavercreek where there's no rain but surrounded by waterfalls and CTGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bman10 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, junior said: I'm literally in the only spot in Beavercreek where there's no rain but surrounded by waterfalls and CTGs Same same . Wtf. This kinda BS! Lmao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 14, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 14, 2022 Heaviest of the rain kinda skipped over me but it's fine. Wasn't expecting anything today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 14, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 14, 2022 Bout to see an outflow boundary clash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Heaviest of the rain kinda skipped over me but it's fine. Wasn't expecting anything today Pretty much same here. That cell blew up over Beavercreek and the one slowly crawling at me weakened. Still had a steady rain with thunder/lightning/wind so i'll still take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 14, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, snowlover2 said: Pretty much same here. That cell blew up over Beavercreek and the one slowly crawling at me weakened. Still had a steady rain with thunder/lightning/wind so i'll still take it. Little bit early in the severe weather season for this kind of event for my taste but whatever. We still have plenty of time. And it's better than nothing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Yes it's happening!! Maybe even some hail to my south 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 At least we get some good ole cold pool rains with the occasional lightning strike every 20 ish minutes. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Pretty intense MCS tomorrow late morning/early afternoon. Some supercells in E OK, too. HRRR has almost a 30 degree dew point depression but that seems really excessive. Won't be surprised to see a 20 degree Ttd. Probably some LP supercells with hail/significant wind threat. Edited May 15, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 hours ago, junior said: I'm literally in the only spot in Beavercreek where there's no rain but surrounded by waterfalls and CTGs Here is the radar-estimated rainfall for the Dayton metro, ranging from 0.15" to 3.50" (right?) by Clayton and Phillipsburg, north of I-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Never change, NAM... never change. NAM still has it after 3 runs. Lock it in. Just joking by the way Edited May 15, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 New day 1 still enhanced for wind but also a hatched for hail added. Quote DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1259 AM CDT SUN MAY 15 2022 VALID 151200Z - 161200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM SOUTHEAST KANSAS AND NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA INTO THE OZARKS... ..SUMMARY SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS PARTS OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND LOWER OHIO VALLEY TODAY. SCATTERED DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND LARGE HAIL WILL BE THE PRIMARY THREATS, WITH THE GREATEST RISK EXPECTED FROM NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS INTO THE OZARKS. ISOLATED STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS CAPABLE OF GUSTY WINDS AND PERHAPS LARGE HAIL ARE ALSO POSSIBLE IN PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST. ..SYNOPSIS A MIDLEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE MID MS VALLEY DURING THE DAY TODAY, AND EVENTUALLY INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES LATE TONIGHT. A WEAK SURFACE LOW WILL PERSIST OVER OK INTO THE EVENING, AS A COLD FRONT MOVES SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS, OZARK PLATEAU, AND MIDWEST. FURTHER WEST, A MIDLEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE FROM THE INTERIOR NORTHWEST TOWARD THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. ..CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE OZARK PLATEAU A SUBSTANTIAL SEVERE THREAT MAY EVOLVE ACROSS PARTS OF EASTERN KS/OK INTO THE OZARK PLATEAU, THOUGH CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY REMAINS REGARDING THE EVOLUTION OF EARLY-DAY CONVECTION AS IT SPREADS SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE DAY. CONVECTION WILL LIKELY BE ONGOING AT THE START OF THE PERIOD THIS MORNING ACROSS NORTHERN KS INTO FAR SOUTHERN NE. HAIL AND PERHAPS STRONG WIND GUSTS WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THIS INITIAL ACTIVITY. THIS CONVECTION MAY EVOLVE INTO AN MCS THAT WILL MOVE SOUTHEASTWARD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED THE COLD FRONT. STEEP LOW/MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES AND MODERATE-TO-STRONG BUOYANCY WILL FAVOR INTENSIFICATION OF ONGOING CONVECTION INTO THE AFTERNOON, ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMEWHAT MORE DISCRETE DEVELOPMENT FURTHER WEST ALONG THE COLD FRONT INTO A LARGER PORTION OF CENTRAL/EASTERN OK. DEEP-LAYER SHEAR WILL BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR ORGANIZED STORM STRUCTURES AS NORTHWESTERLY MIDLEVEL FLOW INCREASES THROUGH THE DAY. ANY WELL-ORGANIZED MCS THAT CAN EVOLVE AND MOVE THROUGH THE WARM SECTOR FROM THE LATE MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON COULD PRODUCE A SWATH OF DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, GIVEN THE VERY FAVORABLE THERMODYNAMIC PROFILES IN PLACE. A CONDITIONAL THREAT FOR VERY LARGE HAIL AND PERHAPS A TORNADO OR TWO WILL ALSO BE PRESENT WITH ANY SUSTAINED SEMI-DISCRETE CELLS THAT MAY DEVELOP ALONG THE CONVECTIVE OUTFLOW AND/OR THE PRIMARY COLD FRONT. WIND AND/OR HAIL PROBABILITIES MAY NEED TO BE INCREASED IN SUBSEQUENT OUTLOOKS, DEPENDING ON SHORTER-TERM OBSERVATIONAL AND GUIDANCE TRENDS. ..MID MS VALLEY INTO THE OH VALLEY THE POTENTIAL FOR EARLY-DAY MCS DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST LEADS TO SOME UNCERTAINTY REGARDING THE SEVERE THREAT ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MID MS VALLEY INTO THE OH VALLEY DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. HOWEVER, MODERATE BUOYANCY ALONG/AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT AND INCREASING DEEP-LAYER SHEAR WILL SUPPORT STRONG THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT FROM EASTERN MO INTO SOUTHERN IL DURING THE AFTERNOON, POTENTIALLY SPREADING EASTWARD TOWARD THE OH VALLEY BY EVENING. LARGE HAIL AND LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE THE PRIMARY THREATS IN THIS AREA. ..NORTHWEST IN ADVANCE OF THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE TROUGH, CONVECTION IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP LATE THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTHEAST WA AND NORTHEAST OR. BUOYANCY IS EXPECTED TO BE MODEST AT BEST (MLCAPE GENERALLY 500 J/KG OR LESS), BUT EFFECTIVE SHEAR OF 40-50 KT WILL SUPPORT A COUPLE OF ORGANIZED CLUSTERS AND/OR SUPERCELLS WHICH COULD POSE AN ISOLATED SEVERE WIND/HAIL RISK. SOME SEVERE THREAT WILL SPREAD INTO PORTIONS OF ID AND PERHAPS WESTERN MT BEFORE A GENERAL WEAKENING TREND LATER TONIGHT. ..NORTHEAST/MID ATLANTIC DIURNAL HEATING OF A RELATIVELY MOIST ENVIRONMENT WILL PROMOTE SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN. WEAK SHEAR AND MODEST MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL LIMIT STORM INTENSITY, BUT A FEW STRONGER WIND GUSTS AND MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL MAY OCCUR. ..DEAN/BENTLEY.. 05/15/2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOhioChaser Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) I don't want this today. A bunch of stupid convective debris from a probable weakening storm to hinder my views of the eclipse tonight? No thanks. Take that B.S somewhere else! Edited May 15, 2022 by NWOhioChaser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Day 5 and 6 areas highlighted for parts of the GL/MS Valley/OH Valley. Quote Day 4-8 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0405 AM CDT Sun May 15 2022 Valid 181200Z - 231200Z ...DISCUSSION... Global models appear to be in reasonably good agreement through Day 6 across the U.S., moving a mid-level trough out of the Gulf of Alaska and into/across the Pacific Northwest Day 4/Wednesday, and then eastward into the northern Plains Day 5/Thursday, and then the Upper Great Lakes/Upper Midwest and into Ontario Day 6/Friday. As the upper system advances, a cold front is forecast to emerge from the northern Rockies into/across the northern and eventually the central Plains. Near this front and the evolving surface low, focused ascent across the north-central States/Upper Mississippi Valley region will likely result in afternoon/evening severe storms. Along with potential for large hail and damaging winds, a few tornadoes are also expected, given flow expected to veer favorably through the lower half of the troposphere, while increasing in magnitude with height, suggesting shear favorable for supercells. Some severe risk may also evolve eastward across the Midwest/Ohio Valley region, as a weak mid-level disturbance moves through westerly flow aloft, near a weak west-to-east baroclinic zone. However, with the north-south positioning of this boundary uncertain, and differing rather substantially in various models, will not highlight this more uncertain risk with a 15% area at this time. Steady advance of the upper trough, and associated cold front, will continue Day 6, with the boundary forecast to extend from the Upper Great Lakes to the southern Plains through the afternoon. Once again, a favorably moist/destabilizing warm sector will lead to severe-storm development near and ahead of the front, as the eastern fringe of stronger southwesterlies aloft spread atop the frontal zone, yield shear sufficient for organized/rotating storms. Large hail and damaging winds would appear to be the primary risks, along with some potential for tornadoes. As model solutions deviate Day 7, mainly with respect to the portion of the trough trailing southward out of eastern Canada into the U.S., convective evolution becomes more uncertain, precluding any areal highlights through the end of the period. ..Goss.. 05/15/2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 ILN AFD concerning tonight and they also seem to be really interested about Thursday. Quote AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION National Weather Service Wilmington OH 1049 AM EDT Sun May 15 2022 .SYNOPSIS... Above normal temperatures continue today with another round of showers and storms tonight before drier air filters in during the day on Monday and persists through Tuesday. An unsettled pattern resumes midweek and beyond as several rounds of showers and storms are expected for the second half of the workweek as more humid air builds into the Ohio Valley. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... Overnight fog has improved with heating as the boundary layer mixes out. Mid level shortwave to dig southeast from the Mid MS Valley today and into the Great Lakes tonight. Model solutions showing drier surface dewpoints around 50F developing across the northwest as the airmass becomes well mixed later today. This will act to limit the instability with only marginal instability expected. With a lack of favorable forcing until late evening and given unfavorable thermo environment have slowed pcpn down with the area expected to remain dry during the daylight hours. In warm sector with good sunshine have continued to go on the warm side of guidance envelope with highs generally in the mid 80s. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 PM MONDAY/... Attention this evening will quickly turn to the approach of a fairly potent S/W, which will push E through the region during the overnight hours. Aloft, H5 diffluence will promote large scale ascent amidst large-scale height falls. Closer to the sfc, a rather broad frontal boundary will track E through the region during the overnight hours, with some strengthening LL convergence contributing to additional lift. By this evening, expect widespread convection to be well underway initially off to the W of the ILN FA across parts of MO/IL/IN. As the system pushes E through late evening into the overnight, the forcing and deeper-layer shear will gradually increase, with an uptick in coverage of convection expected between 00z-06z as it nudges into the far western stretches of the local area. Deep-layer shear will increase sufficiently during the late evening into the overnight, with 0-6km bulk shear on the order of 40-50kts by 06z. This will occur with a SW-to-NE oriented frontal boundary sagging to the SE, with some LL convergence along the sharpening trof axis. One of the main questions that exists at this juncture is the degree to which SB instby can be maintained/increased deeper into the overnight period. Many solutions suggest that a near-sfc inversion will be able to develop, potentially hindering, at least somewhat, the potential for stronger gusts to be translated down to the ground with any of the stronger cores. The shear is no doubt sufficient for organized convection, but the LL thermodynamic environment just isn`t ideal for a widespread severe threat to evolve. There are, of course, a few fcst soundings, particularly on the NAM, where SB instby is able to be maintained a bit more, even past 06z through most of the local area coincident with the best large-scale lift and convective coverage. But... this seems to be on the outlier of solutions, with most guidance suggesting a near-sfc stable layer that would keep most of the convection elevated in nature and help limit the severe potential locally. This is due, in part, to the drying of the LL environment in the afternoon/evening, with a pool of drier air residing across most of the local area into the early overnight period. And there isn`t any substantial theta-e/moisture advection to overcome this. Yes, there may be a few storms that produce gusty winds, but the lack of a stronger signal regarding the LL thermodynamic environment, combined with a LL bulk shear vector orientation that won`t have a ton of cross-boundary component, suggests that the severe threat is much more on the marginal side than anything else. Feel that our thinking is in- line with the "trimmed back" SLGHT risk area to more across the far W/SW edges of the ILN FA where activity will be moving through earlier (albeit most likely still after 03z) in a slightly more favorable thermodynamic environment. We may end up with a scenario where most of the widespread pcpn is actually just "behind" the sfc boundary where winds will turn more N/NW. There won`t be a sharp sfc moisture or temp gradient on the leading edge, once again suggesting a good deal of an elevated component to this activity. The setup of NW sfc winds limiting inflow into the updrafts, with sfc DPs rebounding only meagerly from the lower 50s to mid/upper 50s (without pronounced theta-e advection) just doesn`t stand out in any manner for anything more than a marginal setup for a few gusty showers/storms. Most spots will see some rainfall -- potentially on the order of a third to half of an inch in most locales -- but storm motion will be quick enough to the ENE, without much training expected, to limit the heavy rain/flooding threat. Drier conditions evolve toward daybreak and beyond from W to E. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/... Mean trough begins to propagate east of the Ohio Valley Monday night. Downstream of an H5 ridge, high pressure will remain in control through Tuesday and offer dry and pleasant conditions. Won`t see a much of a rebound in moisture levels on Tuesday quite yet - allowing dewpoints to remain in the upper 40s to lower 50s. Additionally, locations along/north of I-70 have a chance of observing high temps in the upper 60s, with low to mid 70s elsewhere. On Wednesday, the H5 ridge dampens and flow becomes more quasi-zonal over the Midwest. Embedded within this flow pattern will be several shortwaves that ripple through. This will provide some upper-level ascent, allowing scattered showers and storms to develop early in the day. Pcpn remains favored into Wednesday night, especially across the southern portions of our fa. Thursday will be an interesting day to monitor as shortwave energy continues to move through aloft. Lower in the troposphere, the presence of a LLJ will provide an enhanced surge of warmer and more saturated air into our fa. There still remains some differences in long-range models as to where the LLJ aligns itself, which will have implications on where the best instability and lapse rates will form. Still a bit too early to truly diagnose the potential threats for the day, but the overall pattern/setup does offer some interesting features that will need to be closely monitored. Once we progress into Friday, pretty good signal in long-range models showing an amplified H5 ridge building over the eastern CONUS. While pcpn chances will be lower on Friday, still cannot completely rule out the potential for diurnal showers/storms developing. As we progress into Saturday, a broad H5 trough begins to push the ridge eastward. This may allow for showers and storms to remain in the forecast on Saturday, especially across the western portions of our CWA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 15, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 15, 2022 I was surprised about days 5-6. I also haven't paid much attention to the medium range in a while. GFS is kinda crazy for Thursday but a lot of it has to do with GFS probably going too crazy with convection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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