Neoncyclone Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 New towers going up further south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 ILN latest concerning late tonight/tomorrow. Quote AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION National Weather Service Wilmington OH 357 PM EDT Mon May 2 2022 .SYNOPSIS... Cloud cover will increase this evening with widespread showers expected Tuesday morning. A few storms are expected Tuesday afternoon and evening before drier conditions filter back in Tuesday night through early Thursday. Rain and storm chances will return again late Thursday into the end of the workweek. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM TUESDAY MORNING/... A persistent stratocu deck has remained locked in for most of the daytime period thus far for far northern portions of Mercer, Auglaize, and Hardin Counties in OH. Elsewhere, abundant sunshine has been the story thus far today, with temps generally in the upper 60s to mid 70s. These clear sky conditions will not persist for much longer as thickening cirrus will overspread the OH Vly from the SW through the evening and early nighttime hours. Temps will drop off fairly quickly after sunset this evening before plateauing toward midnight and beyond with the arrival of thicker cloud cover. Overnight lows will generally be in the upper 50s and lower 60s. By later in the overnight period, the system which is currently residing in the south-central plains will migrate into the western OH Vly. With this will be an increase in LL wind fields as a ~50kt H8 LLJ noses NE into the local area toward daybreak. This increase in deeper-layer wind fields will promote large- scale moisture advection and mass convergence/lift, which will enhance the development and expansion of a broad shield of SHRA, with perhaps some embedded TSRA, into the far western ILN FA during the predawn hours. This will overspread the local area progressively from 09z-15z before the back edge quickly pulls further ENE beyond 15z. This initial WAA-induced wing of convection will be elevated in nature, with the severe threat holding off until the afternoon. Rainfall will generally be around a quarter to third of an inch with this initial band, but a few spots will pick up close to half of an inch of rain, or more, with this initial round of pcpn. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/... Once the WWA-induced wing of pcpn pivots NE by late morning, the focus will quickly turn to LL destabilization efforts, which will be well underway following the departure of the shield of pcpn and more widespread cloud cover toward late morning. By 16z, expect for a few breaks in the cloud cover to begin to develop amidst an increasingly mixed BL. This will occur coincident with strong LL moisture advection NNE into the Tri- State area around noon, with sfc DPs creeping into the mid 60s toward 18z for the S/SE two-thirds of the ILN FA, with slightly drier air further N toward the weak sfc low center. Expect the weak sfc low center to track from central IL to NW IN by 18z. The warm front will arc through N IN into NE OH and further to the SE across western parts of PA. The weak low will drift E during the heart of the afternoon period, with aggressive destabilization efforts through the first part of the afternoon, especially if clouds can clear out quicker in the 16z-19z time frame. By as early as 16z-17z, expect that CI may already be underway along the leading edge of a weak sfc trof/convergent axis positioned from near the Miami Valley SSW into the Tri-State area and SE IN. This will serve as the primary source for LL lift, aside from the front itself hanging well back to the W. With the LL/sfc flow gradually veering from more S to SW progressively from one side of the sfc trof to another, this subtle convergent axis will likely provide the earliest focus for CI, expected in the VC of a corridor near the Miami Valley to SE IN around 17z. Without much in the way of early large-scale lift/forcing, there is concern that any convective development early in the afternoon could be discrete in nature, with large hail and damaging winds quickly becoming the primary threats with this activity as both LL and ML lapse rates steepen simultaneously. This will occur due to the infiltration of drier air in the midlevels and more moist air in the LL, offering a favorable setup for rapid deeper-layer destabilization, with SBCAPE approaching 2000 J/kg in a few spots by 18z. This will occur coincident with sufficient deeper-layer shear on the order of ~40kts with the H8 LLJ still 35-40kts toward mid afternoon (even as the as best LLJ peels east by late morning). Along the leading edge of the sfc trof, sfc winds may become slightly more backed in nature, suggesting that a tornado threat may materialize with subtle vertical directional shear and effective inflow SRH on the order of 200 m2/s2. This would likely maximize with storms whose inflow layer remains unencumbered by nearby convection (i.e. more discrete in nature) or if cell mergers are able to occur. There remain a few questions regarding coverage of activity, especially without a broader-scale/stronger lifting mechanism. What early afternoon convection that is able to form may not take too long to quickly become strong to severe, especially if sufficient destabilization can occur in the wake of AM convection and as the storm clusters drift quickly to the ENE into parts of south-central and central OH and NE KY by 21z or so. The initially-discrete cells may grow upscale into clusters a bit more with eastward progression. This will place parts of central OH/south-central OH/NE KY more in-line for some strong to severe activity in the 20z-22z time frame before it pushes off to the E. Other ISO activity will linger back a bit further to the W closer to the weak sfc low in WC OH toward 00z and along the actual front itself, which won`t move into the ILN FA until about 00z before clearing the local area by 03z. There is still a severe threat with this activity, but anticipate the greatest severe threat window to be positioned somewhere in the time frame from 2 PM to 6 PM with the sfc-trof induced activity before coming to an end altogether toward 10 PM as the front moves close to the eastern border of the ILN FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Also new cells popping east of that boundary, might keep things messy for a while, or things are going to go upscale really quickly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Pretty worried about the southern supercell and discrete convection firing further south in OK, a couple tiny cells to the south supercell should have no problem ingesting them. Edited May 2, 2022 by Neoncyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Neoncyclone said: New towers going up further south SW and Central Oklahoma appears to be the most favorable area for Supercell action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Looks like it’s trying to get a meso going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 HRRR really seemed to nail that S KS cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, TLChip said: Looks like it’s trying to get a meso going. Val Castor has a wall cloud that is trying to get lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 First tornado warning of the day, can't blame them if this thing fully matures and stays semi-discrete, it's going to become a big deal really quickly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 And tor warned, funnel cloud spotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Skynews9 has this: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 That tower south of the current warned area looks like it’s going to spin up too, hook popped up real quick as it developed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Okay, this means business. Could have a tornado on the ground at any moment now at this rate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Oh me oh my, new radar scan has a well-defined mesocyclone, would absolutely be rainwrapped if this produces. Edited May 2, 2022 by Neoncyclone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Something is not right, I'm thinking that there are multiple areas of spin in that one Supercell near Fairview. Edited May 2, 2022 by Iceresistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 2, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 2, 2022 Watching any one of these more discrete cells in Oklahoma. Discrete and the environment is very favorable for tornadoes. We'll see if they can get sustained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 2, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 2, 2022 Just now, ClicheVortex2014 said: Watching any one of these more discrete cells in Oklahoma. Discrete and the environment is very favorable for tornadoes. We'll see if they can get sustained. Sounds like SPC likes the tornadic supercell for now Mesoscale Discussion 0624 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0332 PM CDT Mon May 02 2022 Areas affected...Portions of southern KS and northwestern into north-central OK Concerning...Tornado Watch 171... Valid 022032Z - 022200Z The severe weather threat for Tornado Watch 171 continues. SUMMARY...The greatest threat for tornadoes and very large hail should focus across parts of southern Kansas and northwestern Oklahoma through 5 PM CDT. DISCUSSION...A supercell has developed over part of southwestern KS in close proximity to the surface low, with large hail up to 1.75 inches in diameter reported so far. Other convection has initiated along the dryline in northwestern OK and is gradually intensifying into supercells. Recent VWPs from KVNX show a strengthening wind profile with height through mid levels, with around 200 m2/s2 of 0-1 km SRH and 50+ kt of deep-layer shear. Even stronger low-level SRH may be present farther east into north-central OK along/near the effective warm front. Any supercells that can remain at least semi-discrete will continue to pose a threat for very large hail (2 to 3 inch diameter) and tornadoes as they move eastward over the next hour or two given this favorable low-level and deep-layer shear, and the presence of 1000-2500 J/kg of MLCAPE. Greater boundary-layer instability is present over northwestern into north-central OK in a fairly narrow corridor, where robust heating is occurring and surface dewpoints have recently surged into the upper 60s. This area will probably have the best chance for a strong tornado in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 The right mover from the splitting cell near Watonga may have some pretty good potential. Not any storms merging into it like the one to it's north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Those 2 cells near hitchcock hiding so well between radars Edited May 2, 2022 by TLChip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted May 2, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: Something is not right, I'm thinking that there are multiple areas of spin in that one Supercell near Fairview. Link please and thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChip Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Just now, OKwx_2001 said: The right mover from the splitting cell near Watonga may have some pretty good potential. Not any storms merging into it like the one to it's north Yeah I think that cell should take off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Link please and thanks in advance https://www.news9.com/videolivestream?liveStream=https://live.field59.com/kwtv/kwtv4/playlist.m3u8 Skynews9 Livestream It's showing that the Supercell is recycling. Edited May 2, 2022 by Iceresistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: https://www.news9.com/videolivestream?liveStream=https://live.field59.com/kwtv/kwtv4/playlist.m3u8 Skynews9 Livestream It's showing that the Supercell is recycling. Also for Val Castor https://www.news9.com/videolivestream?liveStream=https://live.field59.com/kwtv/kwtv2/playlist.m3u8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 S KS cell tornado warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 If one of these cells matures it will 100% be my target for a strong/violent, It would have the most time through the warm sector and most discrete storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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