StormfanaticInd Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Sacry looking storm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 16, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted April 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Iceresistance said: @ClicheVortex2014Can't find the tornado through ARDOT Cameras, is the Mesocyclone weakening, recycling, or Rain-wrapped, the NWS is saying that the tornado is no longer on the ground Hard to tell without good radar coverage in the first place but it looks like the supercell has transitioned to outflow dominant. That would mean a hail/wind threat more than tornado. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Hard to tell without good radar coverage in the first place but it looks like the supercell has transitioned to outflow dominant. That would mean a hail/wind threat more than tornado. More storms developing in front of it, which may end the tornado threat for this storm by disrupting the Mesocyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Little supercell firing near Pleasent Plains, looks pretty solid, totally discrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I'm under a Thunderstorm Watch until 2 AM And this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 No longer tornado warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 I'm on the far northern edge of the new severe watch but I don't think I'm gonna get anything since the front is just a few miles away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincysnow Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 This is just plain nasty, cant imagine the hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 16, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted April 16, 2022 This is causing quite the controversy on the twitter machine. Interesting statement from SPC's lead forecaster... but it's not necessarily an indictment on LZK's decision to go with tornado emergency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoncyclone Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Not sure i've seen a storm in recent memory that went outflow-dominant and then got an inflow surge, kinda what it looks like to me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Depew, OK storm now Severe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincysnow Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Neoncyclone said: Not sure i've seen a storm in recent memory that went outflow-dominant and then got an inflow surge, kinda what it looks like to me though. I agree, def has an inflow surge as of now, we like to see that backwards C to not be conducive for spinning up a tornado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist Ingyball Posted April 16, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted April 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: This is causing quite the controversy on the twitter machine. Interesting statement from SPC's lead forecaster... but it's not necessarily an indictment on LZK's decision to go with tornado emergency. Jim LaDue is no slouch either and is involved with radar training in the NWS. I'm sure the two of them will be chatting about it in person as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Quote Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Memphis TN 907 PM CDT Fri Apr 15 2022 ARC031-093-111-160245- /O.CON.KMEG.SV.W.0099.000000T0000Z-220416T0245Z/ Craighead AR-Poinsett AR-Mississippi AR- 907 PM CDT Fri Apr 15 2022 ...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 945 PM CDT FOR SOUTHEASTERN CRAIGHEAD...NORTHEASTERN POINSETT AND NORTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI COUNTIES... At 906 PM CDT, a severe thunderstorm was located over Caraway, moving east at 45 mph. Softball size hail was reported in Lake City. THIS IS A DESTRUCTIVE STORM FOR SOUTHEASTERN CRAIGHEAD COUNTY. HAZARD...Softball size hail. SOURCE...Radar indicated. IMPACT...People and animals outdoors will be severely injured. Expect shattered windows, extensive damage to roofs, siding, and vehicles. Locations impacted include... Osceola, Manila, Lake City, Monette, Caraway, Keiser, Dell, Little River, Etowah, Black Oak, Victoria, Three Way, Dearman, West Ridge, Eastview, Lennie, Vail, Big Lake, Hightower and Carson Lake. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A Tornado Watch remains in effect until midnight CDT for eastern Arkansas. For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building. && LAT...LON 3573 9046 3589 9046 3588 9000 3562 8999 3562 9029 TIME...MOT...LOC 0206Z 288DEG 41KT 3578 9029 THUNDERSTORM DAMAGE THREAT...DESTRUCTIVE HAIL THREAT...RADAR INDICATED MAX HAIL SIZE...4.00 IN WIND THREAT...RADAR INDICATED MAX WIND GUST...<50 MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bman10 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Back to being tor warned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 And tornado warned again. Quote BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED Tornado Warning National Weather Service Memphis TN 914 PM CDT Fri Apr 15 2022 The National Weather Service in Memphis has issued a * Tornado Warning for... Southwestern Mississippi County in eastern Arkansas... Central Tipton County in western Tennessee... Southwestern Lauderdale County in western Tennessee... * Until 945 PM CDT. * At 914 PM CDT, a severe thunderstorm producing a tornado was located near Caraway, moving southeast at 40 mph. HAZARD...Tornado and softball size hail. SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation. IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed. Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree damage is likely. * Locations impacted include... Osceola, Caraway, Wilson, Keiser, Fort Pillow State Park, Marie, Fulton, Gilt Edge, Burlison, Etowah, Garland, Victoria, Three Way, West Ridge, Eastview, Lennie, Evadale, Driver, Grider and Golden Lake. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a storm shelter or an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris. && LAT...LON 3585 9022 3564 8971 3541 8989 3566 9029 3576 9029 TIME...MOT...LOC 0214Z 302DEG 35KT 3574 9021 TORNADO...RADAR INDICATED MAX HAIL SIZE...4.00 IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 @OKwx_2001Found this neat radar from KOTV-News 6 https://www.newson6.com/warn-interactive-live-radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 Just now, Iceresistance said: @OKwx_2001Found this neat radar from KOTV-News 6 https://www.newson6.com/warn-interactive-live-radar Several years ago their WARN radar used to be really good. But then they changed it and it's not the same anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted April 16, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Yeah, none of these tornado reports really scream 'tornado' without a doubt. All of these are filed under tornado reports. First one could be straight-line wind damage. I haven't seen any pictures suggesting a wedge like the second one says. Third one... top of trees? Fifth one... front of homes damage? Only the front? Possible wind-driven hail. Portable buildings partially destroyed/scattered siding could be straight-line wind. Cars flipped could go either way. Not SPC's fault... nor LZK's fault. If someone calls in and says there's a wedge on the ground with a supercell in a Bermuda triangle, doubting the report probably isn't smart. Edited April 16, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Yeah, none of these tornado reports really scream 'tornado' without a doubt. All of these are filed under tornado reports. First one could be straight-line wind damage. I haven't seen any pictures suggesting a wedge like the second one says. Third one... top of trees? Fifth one... front of homes damage? Only the front? Possible wind-driven hail. Portable buildings partially destroyed/scattered siding could be straight-line wind. Cars flipped could go either way. Only the NWS Surveys will show if these reports are consistent with a Tornado or Straight Line Winds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist Ingyball Posted April 16, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: Yeah, none of these tornado reports really scream 'tornado' without a doubt. All of these are filed under tornado reports. First one could be straight-line wind damage. I haven't seen any pictures suggesting a wedge like the second one says. Third one... top of trees? Fifth one... front of homes damage? Only the front? Possible wind-driven hail. Portable buildings partially destroyed/scattered siding could be straight-line wind. Cars flipped could go either way. 80 mph winds and 2"+ hail will do a lot of this damage. If there's consideration for a Tor-e your expecting cars to be tossed (not simply flipped over) and at least weaker structures to be destroyed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OKwx_2001 said: Several years ago their WARN radar used to be really good. But then they changed it and it's not the same anymore KWTV had to end the ESP Radar several years ago, I loved it, but it had a 10 minute delay compared to the Nextgen's 2-3 minute delay. Edited April 16, 2022 by Iceresistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricStorm Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 I'm not gonna sit here and try to argue against a NWS office since obviously I'm not an expert like them but I'm not seeing anything that makes me think this should have been a tornado emergency... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neoncyclone Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 If I recall correctly pretty early in, probably at PDS warned it did have a debris signature that was better defined, I saw a screenshot of it earlier and can't find it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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